Re: [CR] How I Spent My Superbowl Sunday

Example: Framebuilders:Alex Singer

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:39:45 -0800
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <>
To: Angel Garcia <>, CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <>, ehbusch <>
In-Reply-To: <004701c98546$08e48a10$6400a8c0@OFFICE1>
Subject: Re: [CR] How I Spent My Superbowl Sunday

Well, I think maybe this demonstrates the Omnipotent Listmeister's point that humor often gets misinterpreted in emails. But even so, it never ceases to amaze me how totally lacking of a sense of humor we can be sometimes.

BTW, I never said "only" rednecks would be watching the Super Bowl. I just said the rednecks would be watching it, and I will stand by that statement, as I think one could do a poll to easily demonstrate that a large percentage of rednecks were watching, by any demographic definition one cares to apply to that word.

Having spent most of my life in Texas, Arkansas and yes Tennessee, in fact at various times West, East and Middle Tennessee, I think I know whereof I speak when it comes to rednecks. Not bad people in some ways, but "Share the Road" is often a concept they have trouble grasping. So like many here, I'm happy to have them off the roads and otherwise occupied at least one day each year, making it safer to ride.

Although I must say that when it comes to cowboys, that western and especially Texan demographic subgroup within the wider redneck category, it's much safer to share the roads with Real cowboys than the Drugstore variety. This being rural West Texas, we have a lot of real cowboys who were born into that culture and occupation, and didn't have to learn it from movies or TV. I've never had one of those guys deliberately run me off the road here in West Texas. But I can't say the same about the guys in Dallas and Houston playing at being cowboys. Guys who drive extended bed pickups because it indulges their egos are a lot more likely to further indulge it by running cyclists of the road than are those who actually have a practical use for such vehicles.

BTW I resent being called an "imbarrasment to society". That's "embarrassment to society". If I'm going to be called names, I insist on at least having the insults spelled correctly.

But to try to end on an On Topic note, it was a nice day on Sunday, and although I spent much of the day working on the On Topic 1976 Romic Tourer, I did at least get out for several brief rides to check out the last few bits added. I trust some other members were able to do some more extended riding, made much more pleasant by the remarkably light traffic due to all the best and most refined people in American society being absorbed by the premier cultural event of the year. Maybe we will get another opportunity next time PBS airs a live performance of the Vienna Philharmonic or the Bolshoi Ballet. On that note, I did attend a concert of the Big Spring, Texas, Symphony (yes, believe it or not we have a symphony) on Saturday night. But unfortunately the symphony started at 8 PM, too late to reduce the traffic and improve the classic bike riding much on Saturday.


Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA

--- On Mon, 2/2/09, ehbusch wrote:

> From: ehbusch <>

\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] How I Spent My Superbowl Sunday

\r?\n> To: "Angel Garcia" <>, "CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS" <>

\r?\n> Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 8:53 AM

\r?\n> To say that only drunken rednecks are watching the Super

\r?\n> Bowl is at best absurd and to bash all "rednecks as

\r?\n> shallow cultured people" IMHO makes you an imbarrasment

\r?\n> to society. Maybe makes me wish one of dem good ol boys gets

\r?\n> you in his sight one day and sends you into da ditch...


\r?\n> Ed Busch

\r?\n> Stickin up for all the rednecks here in:

\r?\n> Vonore, Tennessee - USA



\r?\n> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel Garcia"

\r?\n> <>


\r?\n> <>

\r?\n> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:55 PM

\r?\n> Subject: [CR] How I Spent My Superbowl Sunday



\r?\n> > What's the point of starting a post the way you

\r?\n> did? It diminished

\r?\n> > everything that followed, whatever that was.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Nice riding weather today in NJ but the roads were

\r?\n> messy. 3 hours of riding

\r?\n> > and 1 of cleaning a steel bike.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Angel Garcia

\r?\n> > Long Valley, NJ

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------

\r?\n> > From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos

\r?\n> <>

\r?\n> > Date: Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 8:12 PM

\r?\n> > Subject: [CR] How I Spent My Superbowl Sunday

\r?\n> > To:

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Having gradually come to hate pro football over the

\r?\n> years, I, like many

\r?\n> > other list members, look forward to doing pretty much

\r?\n> the opposite of the

\r?\n> > majority of the population on this high holy day of

\r?\n> shallow redneck culture.

\r?\n> > Many CR members are as I speak out on the remarkably

\r?\n> uncongested roads

\r?\n> > enjoying the fact that the drunk rednecks are drunk in

\r?\n> front of the TV

\r?\n> > rather than running cyclists off the road. We know

\r?\n> more than a bit about

\r?\n> > that here in Texas.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > I took the opportunity t0 finish off my Romic Tourer

\r?\n> in preparation to put

\r?\n> > it into service on my daily commute tomorrow morning.

\r?\n> Some members had

\r?\n> > asked for pics when it was finished, so here it ss:

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >


\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > As I said previously, the frame is clean and

\r?\n> workmanlike, but far from

\r?\n> > fancy. I might not have bothered with such a frame

\r?\n> had it not be built by

\r?\n> > the late and much lamented Ray Gasorowski, who I and

\r?\n> several other CR

\r?\n> > members knew personally. But this is a good honest

\r?\n> quality if unpretentious

\r?\n> > touring bike, just the sort of thing that Ray woud

\r?\n> like, although he built

\r?\n> > some very high end stuff as well. Pretty sure this

\r?\n> bike as I acquired it was

\r?\n> > a mostly original complete bike as sold by Ray in

\r?\n> 1976. His choice of

\r?\n> > components, like the frame, emphasized good value over

\r?\n> image.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Original parts include the Tange HS, Sugino Might Tour

\r?\n> crank and BB (altough

\r?\n> > I've changed rings to 50-34), Weinmann 500

\r?\n> calipers (now with Malthauser

\r?\n> > pads) with Diacompe levers (I trashed the suicide

\r?\n> levers and added hoods),

\r?\n> > the Shimano Titlist GS derailleurs, and the original

\r?\n> wheels, the woinderful

\r?\n> > Sanshin ProAm hubs with Araya 27" clinchers, now

\r?\n> sod with Panaracer Pasels,

\r?\n> > 27 x 1 1/8 front and 27 x 1 1/4 rear.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > The ratcheted Suntour DT shifter have been replaced

\r?\n> with ratcheted Suntour

\r?\n> > barends, which are IMHO the best shifters ever made

\r?\n> with the possible

\r?\n> > exception of Simplex Retrofrictions.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > The too-short Nitto stem and unmarked GB radonneur

\r?\n> bars were replaced with

\r?\n> > Nitto Randonneur (mod 135AA) bars and an unmarked

\r?\n> Japanese 25.4 stem. The

\r?\n> > original pedals were a Japanese clone of Lyotard 45D,

\r?\n> with the same very

\r?\n> > narrow width. I repleced them with MKS platform

\r?\n> touting pedals and MKS

\r?\n> > steel toeclips.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > The saddle that come with it - probably not original -

\r?\n> was a beat Mexican

\r?\n> > Unicanitor clone with a 26.4 post forced into the

\r?\n> frame. It looks that the

\r?\n> > seatube was about 26.4, but Ray shimmed it down to

\r?\n> 26.0, much like the old

\r?\n> > Cinellis were shimmed down to 26.2. No clue why.

\r?\n> Used a Laprade-style

\r?\n> > Kalloy 26.0 with a new steel-rail Brooks Swallow. This

\r?\n> was received from a

\r?\n> > CR member in response to my offer to trade a Ti Swift

\r?\n> for a steel Swallow.

\r?\n> > Worked for me, hopefully for him as well.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > I've added necessary bits for touring/commuting.

\r?\n> Zefal mudguards, these are

\r?\n> > nice and reasonably priced - I love Zefal. The

\r?\n> chromed steel Wald rear rack

\r?\n> > which is maybe the biggest bargain in touring gear in

\r?\n> the world.

\r?\n> > Off Topic battery lights. The front bag is Carradice,

\r?\n> made for use with the

\r?\n> > Nitto rack that clamps to the bars. Been looking for

\r?\n> years for a bike to

\r?\n> > use these on. Panniers are Carradice, Shopper right,

\r?\n> Super C left,

\r?\n> > wonderful stuff.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > The seatbag could be Carradice from its look, but it

\r?\n> is actualy Acorn Bags.

\r?\n> > Acorn is a two-person husband and wife company in

\r?\n> California, who make

\r?\n> > classic canvas and leather bike bags. They make them

\r?\n> all themselves by

\r?\n> > hand. They take orders on the first of each month

\r?\n> until the orders equal

\r?\n> > their production capacity, then suspend orders until

\r?\n> the next month.

\r?\n> > Recently, they've been filling their monthly

\r?\n> orders in only a couple of

\r?\n> > hours. This stuuf is good and as classic as you can

\r?\n> get. I was just barely

\r?\n> > able to get my order in this month for a newly

\r?\n> introduced front bag which

\r?\n> > looks to rival Berthoud for quality and style.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Regards,

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Jerry Moos

\r?\n> > Big Spring, Texas, USA