Re: [CR] 65mm bottom bracket shells

Example: Racing:Wayne Stetina

Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:06:11 -0500
From: Harvey Sachs <>
To: <>, Classic Rendezvous <>
Subject: Re: [CR] 65mm bottom bracket shells

Memory may play tricks, but I think I recall a Dawes Double Blue from before 1970 that had a 65 mm bb, and I had the thought that they were common on framesets with 110 rear spacing. but please don't take this as anything more than what it is: a recollection w/o documentation of any sort. harvey sachs mcLean va usa (where too many cottered spindles have come to rest)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ so, i have a 1954 gillott road/path that i'm restoring which has a narrow bottom bracket shell. i've found from reading (mostly the archives) that this was used on some track bikes but i have a few questions for those more learned than i.

were these only found on track bikes and were they a peculiarly british thing? how common were they? i assume they produced a narrower tread and therefore chain-line, and was that the point or is the narrower tread a survivor from earlier bicycle design? were the spindles for these BBs made by most manufacturers? is there a way to tell a spindle for a 65mm shell from one for a 68mm?

i'm going to fit a chater-lea chainset to this bike and i have a nos chater lea spindle, which will probably proove to be for a 68mm BB (does any one know the part# for the narrow bb?). i know i can use a couple of spacers under the fixed cup and lock-ring but if i can get the right part i would prefer to do that. this frame had a bayliss wiley threaded bottom bracket liner fitted when i got it with only the fixed cup attached. i think this was probably a repair as i'm not sure that gillott made frames with threadless BBs. i was thinking of having a sleeve brazed in as a permanent repair and if i did would also see if some spacers could be brazed onto the shell to widen it. however i do have a nos bayliss wiley liner and cups so it could go either way.

hey i know its only 3mm and i'm not going to lose sleep over it but i'd still like to get it right. thanks,

simon bird