Hi Ken, Jerry......and other Woodrup owners
With regard to what most seem to think is a hight bottom bracket height on their Woodrup's, perhaps I can offer some explanation............
The normal bracket height for road frames was based on 10 3/4" ....and this was also based on sprints and tubs, which depending on exactly which tub was used typically meant a measurement of 13 1/2" from ground to centre of axle, so Ken, if your frame has a BB drop of 65mm and your using a wheel with 13 1/2" then yes it would have a 11" BH, then again you might be using a larger tyre which would make a difference, as would using 27 x 1 !/4" wheels.
The perception of what the US customers wanted back in the 70s was based on 'criteruim style frames'........short, steep and with a high BB for cornering.........by way of a contrast, Barry Hoban always specified a 10 1/4" BH on the Mercier branded Woodrup's he rode.
Our concept of how a touring bike should be........ this was influenced by 'our main dealer' in the US, 10 speed drive in Florida, I remember we had to stick to a certain criteria when bulding for them, basically they were intended for light, fast touring, probably never saw fenders [as you would say].
Have to say, its interesting to get feedback.......even if it is many years later!! Hopefully any of you with a Woodrup will continue to enjoy it.......assuming you do in the first place
Brown Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [CR] What joy! (1982 Woodrup)
My Woodrup is a 52 cm, 54.5TT, with a 6.5cm BB drop. I don't understand it, or really like it that much, but it is cushy. Mine is 1980, on topic, from the pre-10 Speed Drive era.
One way or another, this is Woodrups' concept of how a touring or sport/touring bike should be.
Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I have a Woodrup from that era, and it also has a very high BB, again somewhat like a track frame.
Regards,
Jerry Moos Big Spring, Texas, USA
--- On Sun, 3/22/09, Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:
> From: Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [CR] What joy! (1982 Woodrup) > To: kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 10:56 AM
> <<....74 head with 1 3/8" rake......73 seat.....
> 16" back end. >>
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> Kevin, is this a continuation of that recent "reverse
> conversion" topic? This frame's specs surely sounds
> like a track frame with road drop outs! TIGHT! :)
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> From: kevin sayles <kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk>
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> Sent: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:42 am
> Subject: [CR] What joy!.......and a Campag question
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> As mentioned in my earlier post this morning, I went for a
> ride on my
> 1982 Woodrup Super Record bike......it's the first
> proper ride Iv'e done
> on it since rebuilding the bike in its former glory, [for
> some years it
> did have off topic Ultegra 8spd!] and I'd forgotton
> just how wonderful
> this bike rides and handles.........forget the now peculier
> feeling of
> toe clips & straps, or the 'small feel' of the
> Super Record brake
> levers, the bike just floats along, and it feels so
> positive.........I
> now remember saying to myself years ago that this frame was
> the best I'd
> ridden, perhpaps its the geometry.......74 head with 1
> 3/8" rake......73
> seat..... 16" back end..............wonderful, I can
> see myself riding
> this bike quite a lot this Summer, even in some mid week 10
> mile time
> trials and if I'm going well I don't expect to be
> 'much slower' than on
> a modern bike!..........in fact this bike still has my
> personal best 50
> mile TT time credited to it [1.54.34 in 82 no tri bars etc]
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> Pics of this bike are on my flickr site
> http://www.flickr.com/
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> So now for the Campag question......a mate called round
> yesterday, and
> when I showed him my Super Record front gear with the black
> arms, 3
> holes, but with the later 'Sheild logo' as seen on
> C Record stuff he
> reckons this is from the last generation of Super Record,
> which may be
> true, but he also said that the rear Super Record gear was
> with the
> 'concealed spring' like on a 50th aniversary gear,
> and on the last gen
> Nuovo Record gears. Could this be true?........has anyone
> seen or got
> such a Super Record rear gear, I know there were a diferent
> style of
> jockey wheel bolts, and some had alloy bolts rather than
> titanium, but
> never seen one with the concealed spring.
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> Come on you Campag fans!!
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> Cheers Kevin Sayles
> Bridgwater Somerset UK [still Sunny!]
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