Re: [CR] Confente #37 (Ed Granger)

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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:41:05 -0400
From: "George Hollenberg" <ghollmd@gmail.com>
To: <edvintage63@aol.com>
Cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR] Confente #37 (Ed Granger)


Ed, It will interest you to know that the seller had a good idea of the value of what he was selling. And the bike certainly is in the $9-$11,000 range. I would have bought it in a heartbeat, if I didn't already own several Confentes. As a famous antique dealer once said to me," ask a high price, there's always time to come down." The seller actually solicited offers by through his add. In fact, if you find that it's unsold and available at a much lower price, I'll buy it forthwith. If one likes pantography, the bike was very nicely pantographed ( probably by John Grant)-Colnago never had a copyright on this iteration of cloverleaf pattern shown. As you well know, the use of playing card symbols goes way back in bike decoration. Some aficionados also, perhaps rightfully, found fault with the bland white color, the thickness of the paint, etc. but, as the Spanish say, "it never rains to everyone's satisfaction." Best regards, George George Hollenberg MD

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:27 PM, <edvintage63@aol.com> wrote:
> A "real collector" also knows how to make an appropriate "best offer,"
> possibly following some conversation with the seller or the seller's
> representative. There was plenty of time for that to happen, since the
> auction had been "live" for several days. I agree with Brian that it's
> extremely unlikely that someone just hit the Buy It Now for that bike. It
> was nice, but didn't hit all the marks (Colnago panto) that would make it
> 10/10, IMO. Doesn't make sense that a savvy buyer would have taken that
> route, - especially as buyers of Confentes are?often?fairly "investment
> conscious.". The bike could surely have been obtained for less. It's
> possible that someone really wanted the bike, figured out that it was going
> to take 5 figures?to get it, and simply ate the extra?3-4 hundred dollars to
> avoid the extra work it would take to shave that amount off the price. But I
> doubt it.
>
> Ed Granger
> Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> "Hi Brian:
> I think that Dale frowns on too much talk about money, so I'll try to limit
> myself to this one post. While $13500 perhaps is a bit excessive for this
> Confente, a real collector knows how to pay "too much".
> It's a beautiful complete cycle, in a nice size, and with a lot of details
> certain collectors like. The white color is perhaps a bit bland, but
> classic
> notwithstanding. Its serial number places it from the Union Pacific Avenue
> shop. Minus some chrome and a jazzy color ( features that Mario eschewed),
> what more could one want?
> This type of economy often causes collectors to "flee to quality".
> All my best,
> George
> George? Hollenberg MD"
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>

-- George

George Hollenberg MD
CT, USA