Re: [CR] Witcomb Giro d'Italia Information Anyone ?

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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:59:53 -0700
From: "r cielec" <teaat4p@yahoo.com>
To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <28dcb8780908091004y7744292fl3c1a4d53c3ff675a@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Witcomb Giro d'Italia Information Anyone ?


hi, i have yet measured stay length (or i've forgotten what i did measure) but the frame is small approx 48-49 c-t and, this, i assume, will geometrically force relatively smaller stay lengths that may or may not synch-up with rule of thumb guidelines. example, not witcomb: my raleigh super course mkII has a chain stay length of approx 380 - 385; yet, i don't think this was marketed as a race oriented model.

as an aside, i realize i tend to ask some peculiar questions regarding frames and fitments but with smaller frames, "all bets are off" and much of the common wisdom and fixes don't hold. in my limited experience, it is indeed rare that one sees a smaller frame that was actually constructed with sensitivity. thank goodness for craftsmen such as ernesto colnago and brian bayliss who inherently understand small frame requirements. i'm sure there are others but, my knowldege is quite parochial.

all the best,

richard cielec
chicago, illinois; u.s.a.


--- On Sun, 8/9/09, John Wood wrote:


From: John Wood <braxton72@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CR] Witcomb Giro d'Italia Information Anyone ? To: oroboyz@aol.com Cc: teaat4p@yahoo.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 12:04 PM

Richard, Regardless of frame angles, simply measuring the chain stay length will go a long way to determining it's intended use.
> 435mm indicates a more touring oriented frame, < 435 indicates a racier model.

John

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 10:36 AM, <oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:

<<?My particular bike S/N 2040 578 is fitted with a TA triple but,

because the steer tube was cut without spacer for a Campag road head set, center

pull brakes are out of the question thereby ruling out a proper touring build. >>

There is always the option of drilling the stem for the center pull cable stop... Some may tremble at the thought but it has worked very well in many instances....

Dale Brown

Greensboro, North Carolina USA

-----Original Message-----

From: r cielec <teaat4p@yahoo.com>

To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Sent: Sun, Aug 9, 2009 1:46 am

Subject: [CR] Witcomb Giro d'Italia Information Anyone ?

Ahoy !

Re: Witcomb Giro d'Italia, 1979 (U.K. built)

Anyone have any information on this model ?

Regret to admit, I do not know how to measure frame angles so, I cannot deduce

the intended use of this model.

I was told it was their top model but, I have not been able to confirm this.

Incidentally: My particular bike S/N 2040 578 is fitted with a TA triple but,

because the steer tube was cut without spacer for a Campag road head set, center

pull brakes are out of the question thereby ruling out a proper touring build.

Thank you.

Richard Cielec

Chicago, Illinois; U.S.A.

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