Re: [CR] Early 80s CIOCC with 26.8 seatube?

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To: <ciocc_cat@yahoo.com>, <veronaman@gmail.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:30:56 -0400
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From: <oroboyz@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Early 80s CIOCC with 26.8 seatube?


Ciocc were first imported (I am pretty sure) and sold to bike shops by Neel & Katz in Illinois... Then around 1978, the importer Ten Speed Drive Imports from Florida came up big on the National scene by carrying Guerciotti, Ciocc, Woodrup, Cinelli, Rossin and even LeMond TVT, plus gobs of Campagnolo and other goodies. Many shops around the USA bought goods from them. Those were the days!

Dale

Dale Brown

Greensboro, North Carolina USA

-----Original Message----- From: Steve Whitting <ciocc_cat@yahoo.com> To: veronaman@gmail.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; oroboyz@aol.com Sent: Sat, Aug 15, 2009 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [CR] Early 80s CIOCC with 26.8 seatube?

My early 80s Ciocc "San Cristobal" (Columbus SL) frame?takes a 27.2 seatpost - a standard diameter for many top-of-the-line Italian frames "back-in-the day".

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Dale - I recall the folks at Shreve Island Cyclery in Shreveport, LA (where?I bought my frame)?saying that?their high-end frames?came from Ten Speed Drive Imports.? Small world.

Steve Whitting
"The Ciocc Cat"
Prairieville, Louisiana USA
Website at http://ciocc-cat.angelfire.com/


--- On Fri, 8/14/09, oroboyz@aol.com wrote:


From: oroboyz@aol.com <oroboyz@aol.com> Subject: Re: [CR] Early 80s CIOCC with 26.8 seatube? To: veronaman@gmail.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:44 AM

This sounds like a Ten Speed Drive Imports bike.?We sold those in-the-day. ?There were many levels of Ciocc models, many different tube sets depending on price. Could have been a lesser model using Aelle, esp with GS cranks...?

Dale

Dale Brown

Greensboro, North Carolina USA

-----Original Message----- From: Angel Garcia <veronaman@gmail.com> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:23 am Subject: [CR] Early 80s CIOCC with 26.8 seatube?

I recently received the following inquiry regarding a 1980's CIOCC. Anyone have? details, or speculate, on the tubeset CIOCC used? Or, familiar with this model? ::

I recently purchased an (wE believe) early 80s CIOCC Frame World 1977 Model Signed at end of top tube by Giovanni Pelizzoli White Ciocc Lettering w/ Multi colored C & Vertcal in white CIOCC on Headset. Before it was stripped It had NR Head BB Front & Rear Derail & Seatpost w/ Campy GS Crank & Brake Set. All the lug work & CIOCC signature white trim is correct even fork braces match an original MOCHBA 80 that i have compared. It even has the American Importers LOGO on back brake bridge ?

Question is The seat Tube appears to be 26.8 Diameter Most believe it should be 27.2? It has been checked w/venier & by my LBS mechanic & my SR 27.2 does not fit but a 26.8 at LBS seems to fit perfectly. There is a proper gap in tubing where seatpopost bolt goes so I don't think it has collapsed any ???

Any idea to what tubing it might be? To your knowledge was there Columbus SL or could Columbus have given pelizzoli something custom in late 70s early 80s in 26.8 or just AELLE? ? It is a large frame Stamped 60 measures 61 c to c might they have used something "Double Walled" for straight in such a large frame?

Angel Garcia
Long Valley NJ