Re: [CR] Guarini frame

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:02:18 -0600
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Subject: Re: [CR] Guarini frame


Hi All,

I'm watching the Guarini thread with interest as I never got past 'go' in my search for info. The frame in today's post appears similar but has some differences to mine. It looks to be an older frame as mine has later lugs, the Cinelli 'aero' bottom bracket, seatstays that simply butt against the rear quarter of the seat tube ala later on topic Colnagos and others (I've had DeRosas with this arrangement as well).

I also have a Grandis, and while the font of the G is similar, the flourishes are different. My Grandis has scalloped seat stay caps and external cable routing for the rear brake, longer lugs, while my Guarini has internal routing and shorter lugs. My Guarini also has (don't know what it's called) a raised center fork crown, where the shoulders of the crown come into the center and then it's vertical for a cm or two below the crown race area. I've seen this on Colnagos and others as well. The Guarini also has a fully chromed fork and driveside chainstay. Dropouts are chromed Campagnolo and it uses braze on front derailleur.

All I have to go on is the story I got when I acquired the bike, which was recounted in an earlier post today from the archives. Since WordPerfect's team rode Colnago bikes, and the original owner was a muckity muck with WordPerfect (at the time, my bike shop was located less than a mile from the then-still-successful WordPerfect headquarters in Utah), I took him at his word. But I wouldn't declare that's the undisputed truth under oath...thus my several pleas for any help from y'all. But alas, crickets. That's all I heard.

The bike itself is a great rider, looks terrific - thanks again to Kieth Anderson for a great repaint - and will no doubt grow in its legendary status as a mystery bike. Come to think of it, I believe Eddy Merckx may have ridden one to victory while Ugo DeRosa and Ernesto Colnago were flipping a coin to see which one of their bikes he would hop on. I think he took off on a Guarini instead and flew like never before! Yeah, that's how it happened...and until someone provides info on Guarini, I'm going with that story. Eh, it's worked for others...

Greg Overton wishing my old Merckx team Guarini weren't in storage now, near Denver, CO

Quoting loudeeter@aol.com:
> While I agree that there is a close resemblance to a Grandis in the
> G on the side of the headlug, the headbadge ornament/engraving isn't
> like any Grandis I have seen. ?This is an interesting bike. ?In the
> Used Bike Guide, I've not been able to find anything other than
> country of origin for Guarini, so I hope someone can shed some light
> on this. ?Lou Deeter, Orlando FL ?USA
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> From: globallyoff@s2ki.com
> To: Gaz Lemon <gazlemon@gmail.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Thu, Aug 27, 2009 8:37 pm
> Subject: Re: [CR] Guarini frame
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> I suppose it could be a rebranded Grandis. The G cutouts in the sides
> of the lugs look a lot like my bike on the CR website. More pics of the
> rear brake bridge would help as well as more detailed pics in general.
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> Keith Kessel
> Shreveport, La.
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