Re: [CR] re; CR ID'ing a French Frame

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To: verktyg <verktyg@aol.com>, "Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:54:44 -0700
Thread-Topic: [CR] re; CR ID'ing a French Frame
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Subject: Re: [CR] re; CR ID'ing a French Frame


Thanx Chas, Whats your best guess? http://www.gitaneusa.com/images/models/tourdefrance/1970GitaneTourdeFrance.jpg Are those wrap around seat stays on that pro? I can't tell for sure
>From the Gitane Site; The early 1970's models featured Vagner Fork Crowns....It was outfitted with Campagnolo Nuovo Record components, instead of the French assortment used on the TdF, and used Campagnolo dropouts, as opposed to Simplex.

Chris Plunkett Chicago, IL

-----Original Message----- From: verktyg [mailto:verktyg@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 3:05 PM To: westown1@att.net; Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR] re; CR ID'ing a French Frame

Chris,

It's not a Gitane.

They never used Prugnat type 62D lugs: http://tinyurl.com/yfmfoed

The Super Corsa and earlier Tour de France models used Prugnat Type S "Italian Style" lugs: http://tinyurl.com/ce2h66

Later TdFs used Bocama Professional lugs.

Also Gitane never had wrap over seat stays nor did they use the diamond chainstay bridge reinforcements.

Most early Gitane SCs and TdFs came with Nervex Professional fork crowns which were later changed to Nervex DuBois crowns probably around 1972. At the height of the Bike Boom they also used a variety of Wagner crowns (maybe in the late 60s too).

Chas. Colerich with a dozen classic Gitanes
Oakland, CA USA