Re: [CR] Looking for tubular rim cement that stays tacky

(Example: Framebuilding:Tubing:Falck)

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:51:51 -0400
From: "Ken Freeman" <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>
To: "Charles T. Young" <youngc@ptd.net>
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Looking for tubular rim cement that stays tacky


I know of one cyclist who carries a tube of Mastic with him (with some Baggies), and puts a very thin coat on the used tire before installing it as a spare. The light coat of fresh glue tends to re-activate the old layers and restore some tackiness.

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Charles T. Young <youngc@ptd.net> wrote:
> Chas:
>
> That is also my experience with current production glues. On the bright
> side, you can apply initial coats of Vittoria or Conti to new tires and be
> ready to recoat and mount tires within an hour or less in warm conditions.
> While I'd give at least a 12 hour cure before riding, it wouldn't surprise
> me if that could be shortened a lot. Hard to know whether the changes in
> formulation were a consequent of VOC reduction requirements or the desire
> for reduced time in mounting tubulars. Seems to obviate the need for Fastack
> which I have always avoided due to concerns of ripping base tape off when
> attempting removal. Anecdotal, perhaps but I wasn't willing to find out.
>
> One solution may be to just recoat your spares with a light dressing at
> intervals and rely more on residual tackiness of the glue on the rim bed
> after removing the flatted tire. Alternately, a spare with a sufficient base
> coat of glue could probably be wiped lightly with a naptha (ligher fluid)
> soaked rag to restore tackiness in the surface layer of the glue without
> damaging base tape adhesion to the casing. This could be done to the glue on
> the rim bed with less risk. Of course, that approach poses the additional
> challenge of how to carry a solvent along or walking to the closest gas
> station for a thimblefull of gasoline.
>
> Charlie Young
> Honey Brook, Pennsylvania USA
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> Subject: [CR] Looking for tubular rim cement that stays tacky
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>
>
> I'm looking for some tubular rim cement that remains tacky enough to
>> change tires on the road and not have to worry about the tire coming off.
>>
>> I used to use Pastali back in the 70s and 80s. I could change a recently
>> mounted tire and Pastali was usually tacky enough that I didn't have to
>> re-glue it.
>>
>> Earlier this year I pulled about 4 old tires off that I'd glued with
>> Pastali in the late 70s. It was still soft and almost tacky plus held very
>> well after 30 years!
>>
>> I've tried Vitoria, Continental and the new Pastali which is not the same
>> as the old stuff.
>>
>> It seems that current rim cements are not designed to remain sticky once a
>> tire is removed and require re-gluing which isn't convenient on the road.
>>
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>> Chas. Colerich
>> Oakland, CA USA
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Ken Freeman
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