[CR] terminology was porter/porteur Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 82, Issue 84

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From: "tobit linke" <tobitlinke@hotmail.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, <heine94@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:43:20 +0000
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Subject: [CR] terminology was porter/porteur Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 82, Issue 84


Does the distinction between cargo bikes with frame or fork mounted front racks exist in French (regardless of wheelsize), or is the meaning of Porteur narrowed when it's used in English?

What is cycle truck in French?

Tobit Linke, Dortmund, Germany
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> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:07:22 -0700
> From: Jan Heine <heine94@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Portuer/Porter Bicycle, pt. 2
> To: Robert Clair <r.clair@cox.net>, <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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> At 8:53 PM -0400 10/16/09, Robert Clair wrote:
> >... where's the love on this one !! the grant fellow in san fran
> >had one of these on ebay years ago ... a herse. i think jan had
> >some pics in an issue "back in the day" of some porters doing a
> >bicycle race on these with newspapers. i think bilenkey is making
> >a "modern" version ,,,
> >
> >... saw a 1967 dean martin film tonight ,,, and at the very
> >beginning they did a super crane shot/scene of a period porter
> >bicycle navigating through downtown town new york city ... through
> >traffic. big wheel on back ...
> >little wheel on the front ... with a large rack.
>
> The NYC bike is a cycletruck - different from a porteur in that the
> load is attached to the frame, not the fork. The cycletruck is best
> for short distances, low speeds, and pushing the bike. French postal
> carriers use cycletrucks. Schwinn used to make one.
>
> A porteur bike, with the load attached to the fork, is more stable
> and handles much better at high speed, but tends to flop at very low
> speeds (<5 mph), and is not much fun to push. Great for longer
> distances and higher speeds. The French newspaper couriers used
> porteurs.
>
> If you want to know the why and which geometry works best for each, I
> recommend Bicycle Quarterly Vol. 5, No. 3, which covered the subject
> in detail, including a test of a modern cycletruck from Ant and tests
> with porteurs and different geometries to figure out which works best.
>
> So don't confuse the porteurs and cycletrucks, as they are very
> different machines.
>
> Jan Heine
> Editor
> Bicycle Quarterly
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