Re: [CR] Shill bidding pattern?

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:02:47 -0800
From: "Kurt Sperry" <haxixe@gmail.com>
Cc: CR <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR] Shill bidding pattern?


Disappointing to learn tdvlondon may be a dishonest vendor as he has consistently interesting items up for auction.

Caveat emptor as always,

Kurt Sperry Bellingham, Washington USA

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Jon M. Crate <Jon@fai.us> wrote:
> Steven,
>
> I looked into it and believe you are completely correct that this is a clear
> case of abuse.
> Bidder 2 from the first auction has over 80 and Bidder 5 from the second has
> over 50 - all with the same seller only (This is the most recent 30 days!).
> They have 13 and 8 "wins" and yet both have zero feedback.
>
> This other frame was also "won by the same Bidder 5 - now Bidder 3:
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
> http://ebay.com/<blah
> &item=170414622457
> which reappeared for sale here:
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
> http://ebay.com/<blah
> &item=170417817926
>
> If there is a good explanation - it would be interesting to hear
>
> Jon I smell a fish Crate
> Marietta, Georgia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Steven Maasland
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:20 AM
> To: CR
> Subject: [CR] Shill bidding pattern?
>
> About one week ago, I pointed out a Chesini frame that was up for sale. It was
> bid up to an amount that would still have made the frame purchase what I believe
> to have been quite a good deal. Oddly enough, the same frame popped up once more
> this week, even though it had apparently sold the last time. I therefore checked
> into the bidding pattern of both the last auction as well as the relisting and
> lo and behold a truly strange bidding pattern turns up.
>
> In auction http://ebay.com/<blah>
> check out bidder 2 (the winning bidder) although he has been an ebay member for
> 2-3 years, he has absolutely no feedback and has apparently bid only on items of
> one single seller.
>
> In the relisting
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
> bidder 5, looks curiously similar to bidder 2 of the previous auction. Again no
> feedback and only bids placed are on objects put up for sale by one single
> seller.
>
> Am I reading too much into this or does something really stink here?
>
> Steven Maasland
> Moorestown, NJ
> USA