Re: [CR] Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 74, Issue 85


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From: derek robinson <robbo.007@hotmail.co.uk>
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:30:55 +0000
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Subject: Re: [CR] Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 74, Issue 85


Help I hope someone can help me I have a lightweight bike frame but i do not know much about it, I know i t was purchased in the 50's from Denton Cycles in Newcastle Upon Tyne, En gland. The badge on the front says RT, and has scroll work around the joints on the bike A little bit of background, it was bought for my Uncle and then passed on to my Mother who then gave it to me when i was 14 yrs of age (now 47), or iginal color was brown with Denton decals which i took of and repainted (i was only 14 ), now bare metal (must be alloy ??) as it has sat in my gara ge for a year and has not rusted. If anybody can help with reserch with this that would be great.

Derek Robinson Northallerton,North Yorkshire England
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> 1. Re: Selling Woes... eBay vs. CR List...it's all the same to
> me! (globallyoff@s2ki.com)
> 2. WTT Crank Puller (wesoishi@aol.com)
> 3. Re: Ebay selling woes.... (L Travers)
> 4. Re: Selling Woes... eBay vs. CR List...it's all the same
> (Steve Birmingham)
> 5. Re: need source for long spokes (mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net)
> 6. Re: Selling Woes: this vs. that (Thomas)
> 7. Some interesting things on CL (velocipede@optimum.net)
> 8. Key "FOBS" (on topic) (Robert Clair)
> 9. Re: need source for long spokes (mark)
> 10. Re: need source for long spokes] (Thomas)
> 11. Re: SA & multiple chainrings & sunbeam wanted (Thomas)
> 12. Nice Pics On This Blog (devotion finesse)
> 13. WTB: 57cm 80's Roadie (devotion finesse)
> 14. Re: Key "FOBS" (on topic) (Phil Brown)
> 15. Re: need source for long spokes (M-gineering)
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> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:45:59 -0600
> From: <globallyoff@s2ki.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Selling Woes... eBay vs. CR List...it's all the same
> to me!
> To: Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> I think the situation is a bit more complicated than just presentation. I
> have for the time being quit selling items because it seems as if people
> just dont have as much disposable income as they did before the recession .
> I remember bidding against the Japanese buyers back in 2001. Back then
> prices were higher on NOS Campy than they are now.
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> It's a good time to buy, but not sell.......
>
> Keith Kessel
> Shreveport, La.
> USA
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> On Wed, February 18, 2009 1:23 pm, Dale Brown wrote:
> >
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> > <<...Bottom line, selling things can be very frustrating regardless o f
> > the selling venue (e.g., eBay, CR list, retail bike shop, etc.. ....). >>
> >
> > Indeed. So true, so true!
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> >
> > There are a few "musts" though if you want successful sales/auctions:
> > ?
> > 1.) Always include, in the most nauseating detail, every possibly a spect
> > of goods you are selling. parts, teeth on cogs, make of everything ,
> > widths, length, yada yada...Of course, idiots will still ask ques tions
> > that are plainly apparent in the auction description, but at least yo u
> > can just tell them that. And it is a matter of record that you DID supp ly
> > every possible piece of info.
> >
> > 2.) Clean and detail the darn bike/part! Don't put nasty greasy, dirt y,
> > tatty and grungy stuff in pictures and expect any kind of respect! Geez ,
> > would you show your house with dirty underwear on the floor of the
> > bathroom? Laziness in preparation equals poor results in sales.
> >
> > 3.) Supply many many very good pictures of every nauseating detail, a nd
> > both sides of same! Don't say 'pictures on request', just get them ou t
> > there first so you don't have to answer more email.
> >
> > 4.) State your terms of sale, i.e., if you will OR WILL NOT sell pa rts &
> > pieces, change things or whatever.? Be firm up frontand reduce silly
> > requests. ?
> > Now, if you don't do the above, you are going to be made miserable
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> > Dale Brown
> > cycles de ORO Bike Shop 1410 Mill Street
> > Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA
> > 336-274-5959
> > http://cyclesdeoro.com
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> > http://www.carolinacup.com
> > http://www.greensborovelo.com
> > http://www.bikegso.org
> > http://nbda.com
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Kruger <ktk1_7_0_2_8@yahoo.com>
> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; crumpy6204@aol.com
> > Sent: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 1:42 pm
> > Subject: [CR] Selling Woes,,,,,eBay vs. CR List,,,it's all the same to me!
> >
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> > John,
> > While I share your frustrations on eBay selling, I must say that I ha ve
> > exp erienced the same frustrations offering items to CR list members pr ior
> > to l isting on eBay. For example, I offered a very nice bike to the l ist
> > recently, received an i nterest from a a couple list members/lurkers , and
> > after answering quite a f ew questions, was offered substantially $45 0
> > less for the bike!!!!? Now s ome of his questions were legitimate, bu t
> > others were a bit ridiculous, as my tons of photos were self explanat ory
> > as to the component group on the bi ke (that is unless you are vision
> > impaired).? I even offered to make simp le gearing ratio and wheel/rim
> > rebuild changes at no additional cost.? Am going to part this bike out ,
> > and await the stone throwers bashing me for d oing so. I have also had list
> > members tell me they would take an item offered for sa le, only to ne ver
> > be heard from again.? Assume I am not the only one to h ave experienced
> > this situation.? Granted, you can have the same thing hap pen to you on
> > eBay, but in my personal case, the deadbeat buyer ratio is hi gher on the
> > list versus eBay. As for eBay watchers, they have nothing to do with the
> > saleability of your item,,,,trust me on that.? You can have a t on of eBay
> > watchers, who simpl y are interested in seeing what your item sells o r
> > doesn't sell for = I'm always prepared for the bottom feeders who wer e
> > watching the item, only to make a low ball offer outside of the eBay
> > system (as recently experienced with a pair of AKRONT rims).? I also ha ve
> > a NOS Cinelli 1R stem bolt for sale on eBay currently for a starting pr ice
> > of $8.99 with FREE shipping, an d eleven (11) people are watching the
> > auction = now why would you watch s uch a cheap item if you were trul y
> > interested in it and not simply place a bid?!?!?!? If an item fails to
> > sell the first time around, that is not an indicator of it being pric ed
> > too high, as many times it sells for much mor e on a relist. Bottom l ine,
> > selling things can be very frustrating regardless of the selli ng venue
> > (e.g., eBay, CR list, retail bike shop, etc......).
> > For what it's worth, or not worth!
> > Kevin Kruger = Grantville, PA
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