Re: [CR] Scheeren v. Weinmann balsa-filled rims.

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From: "Al Van Varick" <alvan519@cox.net>
To: ternst <ternst1@cox.net>, <hsachs@alumni.rice.edu>, Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 19:10:37 -0800
In-Reply-To: <CA0C46FBCE8540B187A0913F81A30B99@D8XCLL51>
Subject: Re: [CR] Scheeren v. Weinmann balsa-filled rims.


Hello List Members, I will post some pictures of the Scheeren Labels sometime after the sun comes up tomorrow. Al Van Varick Hemet, Ca, USA

-----Original Message----- From: ternst [mailto:ternst1@cox.net] Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:31 PM To: hsachs@alumni.rice.edu; Classic Rendezvous; alvan519@cox.net Subject: Re: [CR] Scheeren v. Weinmann balsa-filled rims.

Harvey, et al: Scheeren was making the alloy rims before the war, and maybe in time for the '36 games? The Scheeren folks were getting older and sold their company to Weinmann, can't recall that date and don't know if W. made the Scheeren stuff until it wasn't selling enuf and when W. took S. over. I have some wheels with the old W. decal orange and W going thru the middle if it's in my minds eye. I don't recall when it was but Weinmann didn't make any sewup rims for some years in but Scheerens were very prevalent. Weinmann made rims again after this short layoff and that nice similar to Fiamme shape knurl on the side rim was made for the '66 world's in Germany. The wood filled, actually a small block, made by Weinmann may have been made on the Scheeren machines. The shape was similar and are an early '50's vintage + Altenburger also made a block filled rim in the '50's that was somewhat flatter on top and sides. I had one on my mtorpace bike so it was plenty strong. There was also the Japanese rim with a plastic block. I think the Weltmeister Scheeren had balsa and a thinner aluminum, The Scheeren Standard I think had a sorta plywood block. Back in the late '40's transition experiment timeframe, Weinmann made alloy cranks with taper/cotter pin and also aluminum sprockets to match. I even had a pair of Weinmann sunglasses made with a beautiful deep anodized frame. I gave those items to old collector friends some 25 years ago, don't got no
pics.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA


----- Original Message -----
From: Harvey Sachs
To: Classic Rendezvous


<alvan519@cox.net> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:50 PM Subject: [CR] Scheeren v. Weinmann balsa-filled rims.


> Some time ago, Al Van Varick posted a for sale notice here. He wrote:
> "I have available to the CR List Members a NOS pair of Scheeren Standard
> sew-up rims in 32 drilling. These are the famous balsa wood filled rims
> from the early 1970?s. The Standards are not quite as light as the ultra
> ultra light Weltmiester rims also made by Scheeren and are
> therefore more useable. Pictures will be available when the weather
> clears in sunny SOCAL. $240 will do it."
>
> I thought I had an identical pair in my garage, but I don't. Mine are
> labeled "Weinmann" with no model indication that I can find. Is this a
> case of two labels but one original manufacturer, or did Weinmann and
> Scheeren both make the wood-filled rims? Were there other sources for
> these very light aluminum/balsa rims? I weighed one, at ~325 gm, which is
> pretty light (I think the much later SuperChampion Medaille d'Or was
> either 260 or 290, for reference).
>
> Does anyone know how they were made? I've sort of assumed that the balsa
> was cut into segments, and did little more than maintain the profile of
> the rim section when it was rolled into a hoop. But, that is just a guess.
> I am reasonably certain that balsa doesn't grow in hoops. :-)

>

>

> thanks!

> harvey sachs

> mcLean va