Re: [CR] Herse on French eBay

(Example: Framebuilders:Pino Morroni)

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:37:41 -0400
From: "jay hartman" <rjayhartman@gmail.com>
To: alex m <alexpianos@yahoo.fr>
Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Herse on French eBay


On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:55 PM, alex m <alexpianos@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> As Norris points out the workmanship on this frame looks pretty basic. To
> be confirmed with better photos and/or a visual examination.
>
> As an example of Rene Herse refined workmanship it is of no interest
> whatosoever.
>
> On the other hand, it is an extremely early example, I would say one of the
> earliest known to date. So collectible, if not beautiful. The parts are
> extremely interesting (Speedy brakes not Herse). Depends what you are
> looking for. I wouldn't want it in my collection, but the type of collector
> wanting the earliest possible example of a marque would bid.
>
> Alexander March
> Bordeaux
> France
>

That is interesting because I always thought those were the first style Herse brakes. See:

http://www.blackbirdsf.org/herse/cantilevers_1st.html

The pictures on the ebay bike don't really show them clearly. Were there actually two types of Herse brakes or only the cast alloy type? Who made the Speedy brakes?

Thanks
Jay Hartman
Montclair NJ USA