Thanks, Pete, and I'm back from my errands. My S/N is 729249. My bike has all the trim features that you mentioned.
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Peter Rogers <pjrogers@rogers.com> wrote:
> Hi Ken,
> Yes, I think that you are right about there not being a hard transition to
> the Prugnat lugs.
> Also, I have seen at least one PX10 with Nervex lugs and the later fork
> crown.
> The serial number of my PX-10 frame is 626968. Not sure of the exact
> build date, as I bought the frame alone.
> Peter Rogers
>
> Barrie, Ontario, Canada
>
>
> *From:* Ken Freeman <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 06, 2010 9:07 AM
> *To:* Peter Rogers <pjrogers@rogers.com>
> *Cc:* Carb7008@cs.com ; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> *Subject:* Re: [CR] Peugeot PX10 Info and Sour Grapes!
>
> I have a 1968 or 1969 one, and I'd agree with what Peter has observed.
>
> I'd be surprised if 1971 was a hard transition away from Nervex lugs. The
> PX-10 "scholars" I'm aware of have not noted that as a formal procedural
> change made by Peug, though I can't argue with what anyone has observed.
> The view seems to be that "configuration control" was a bit haphazard.
> Presumably some guy in the plant had the job of dumping more lugs into a bin
> that the frame builders used, and the frame builder put together a set from
> what was in his bin. If on Thursday he had Nervex, he built with Nervex.
> If on Tuesday he had Prugnat, ... well, I think we all follow.
>
> It's pretty widely accepted that the S/Ns are not a sign of much of
> anything, but I'd be glad to add mine to the thread a little later on. It
> might be worth at least comparing them.
>
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Peter Rogers <pjrogers@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Jack,
>>
>>> From the investigations that I have made and examination of a late 1960's
>>>
>>>
>> PX-10 frame that I have, below are the main features that I am aware of
>> (assuming the frame is painted white):
>>
>> BB shell was painted white, with a stamped frame serial number
>> The ellipse-shaped top ends of the back stays were painted black with a
>> surrounding gold line.
>> The seat pillar pinch-bolt lug was painted white
>> The head lugs were painted black
>> The fork crown was painted white, with chrome epaulettes
>> The edges of the chromed forks (front that back) had gold lines where they
>> meet the paint
>>
>> Not sure of the exact date of when the change away from the Nervex Pro
>> lugs occurred, but I think that it happened in 1971.
>>
>> What is the serial number of your Peugeot? It is probably pretty close to
>> the one on the frame that I have.
>>
>> I hope that this helps.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Peter Rogers
>>
>> Barrie, Ontario, Canada
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: <Carb7008@cs.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 4:13 AM
>> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> Subject: [CR] Peugeot PX10 Info and Sour Grapes!
>>
>>
>> Well, the summer is apparently starting to cook here in Northern
>>> Cal...what
>>> with Singers for a Song and all that. I'll have to be satisfied with my
>>> humdrum recent 60's PX-10 acquisition. Knowing how tricky dating these
>>> lovelies is, I'll report that close inspection of Prestige derailleur
>>> revealed a
>>> stamping (3-68) on jockey cage. This closely coincides with probable
>>> build
>>> date of this PX-10 w/Model 93.
>>>
>>> Also, I noticed that pics of 60's PX-10s (if B&W), have black-painted
>>> seat-lug and BB shell while 70's are left white...just head-lugs black.
>>> I wonder
>>> if this change can be traced to a specific year and ditto change away
>>> from
>>> Nervex Pro during 70's PX-10?
>>>
>>> Jack Romans
>>> Sacramento, California
>>> Land of $500 Singers!
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> --
> Ken Freeman
> Ann Arbor, MI USA
>
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Ken Freeman
Ann Arbor, MI USA