Re: [CR] eBay 1969 Colnago - Suspicious bidding games

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:25:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: "John D Proch" <johnprochss@yahoo.com>
To: verktyg <verktyg@aol.com>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <4C474495.9040000@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] eBay 1969 Colnago - Suspicious bidding games


Hello,

For what it is worth, I trust the seller. We have bought a lot of vintage cycling items from these guys and have been treated well and they have been excellent with price, dependability and honesty. What their inside deal is, I don't know, because I guess it is none of my business, but they also, from the physical address they use, protecting us here in our country of the US. Many here are global cyclists, so hooray for vintage cycling worldwide. It is the most fun hobby.

I wish you all the greatest health and wellness, now and on the road, John Proch La Grange, Texas

________________________________ To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 2:03:49 PM Subject: Re: [CR] eBay 1969 Colnago - Suspicious bidding games

Kevin,

The suspicious bidder placed 15 bids on this bike. I always check the bid history when an auction doesn't look right to me. The bidder placed 47 bids for 6 items in the last 30 days of which 31% are with this seller. He also has 2 bid retractions during the past 30 days.

Have you ever tried to do a bid retraction? When I see a lot of them from one bidder I stop bidding!

This sounds like an auction that should be reported to eBay because of the manipulations of the seller.

Chas. Colerich Oakland, CA USA

Kevin Kruger wrote:
> Sure most of you who search eBay found the restored 1969 Colnago Super.
>
> First appeared with a BIN/Best Offer option, and I submitted an offer, only to
>have the seller reduce the first BIN price, never respond to my offer, then to
>close the auction down.
>
> The bike reappeared on a non-reserve auction, and I placed my bid, only to have
>someone place bid(s) until they were the high bidder, and then he/she canceled
>the bid. Now the seller has canceled my bid, stating the reason being the
>disclosure of my high bid by the dishonest "bidder" who canceled his bid after
>uncovering my high bid.
>
> Asked the seller to explain, but this whole auction has left me too suspicious
>to even want to consider bidding on it again (was prepared to adjust the bid
>upward closer to the end of the auction).
>
> Another reason for being upset with eBay's policy to hide bidder IDs. Just
>makes it easy to play games with an auction from both a bidder's and seller's
>perspective.
>
> In case you didn't see the auction, here's the address (item #110559405799)
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>
> Sorry if this bike has been discussed, but I just returned home from being away
>from my computer for nearly a week.
>
> Regards,
> Kevin Kruger - Grantville, PA USA