Re: [Classicrendezvous] Lambert/Viscount brakes

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:43:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Van Hook" <dvanhook@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Lambert/Viscount brakes
To: jfbender@umich.edu
Cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>


Joe, I think you've hit the nail on the head...no two ARE alike it seems! Dave Van Hook


--- jfbender@umich.edu wrote:


> I owned a lugged one. It did not have a threaded BB
> though. Were any two
> alike. I still fave a functional front wheel. Last
> year I sent Dale a
> genuine NOS Viscount brake bolt in the sealed bag.
>
> Joe
>
> --On Monday, October 23, 2000, 5:51 AM -0700 David
> Van Hook
> <dvanhook@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Dale, I remember reading that somewhere...probably
> on
> > one of Sheldon's sites.
> > Since none of mine are lugged, that probably means
> my
> > earliest which I thought was a 1972, probably
> > isn't...maybe '73/'74.
> > Dave Van Hook
> > --- OROBOYZ@aol.com wrote:
> > > In a message dated 10/22/00 11:01:45 PM Eastern
> > > Daylight Time,
> > > karl.frantz@juno.com writes:
> > >
> > > << Mine had Weinmann centerpulls when I got it,
> but
> > > I've always thought they
> > > were not original for some reason. Partly
> because
> > > they don't quite reach
> > > the rims (AVA tubulars)! They'd be OK for 27"
> > > clinchers, so maybe...? >>
> > >
> > > Having sold and worked on those bikes when they
> were
> > > first introduced, I am
> > > certain that the original brakes on Lambert were
> not
> > > Weinmanns, relabeled or
> > > not, but Lambert marked and I would have
> guessed a
> > > GB product if anything.
> > >
> > > While the cranks looked like TA, the finish was
> not
> > > as nice, and the seat
> > > posts could've been by Zeus, but they looked not
> > > quite the same, and the
> > > derailleurs looked Huretish, I think they were a
> lot
> > > different in many
> > > details... I think most of these components were
> > > indeed "farmed out" to
> > > various outside makers, mostly of the actual
> designs
> > > were "adaptations" of
> > > popular designs of that era. The pedals and stem
> for
> > > instance were unlike
> > > anything made to that point of time in the cycle
> > > industry. Eventually all the
> > > dedicated Lambert branded components (derailleur
> > > set, pedals, cranks, bar &
> > > stem, seat post, hubs & quick releases)
> disappeared
> > > entirely.
> > >
> > > I do not know if you all are aware, but the
> first
> > > Lamberts were lugged, not
> > > filet brazed, and had adjustable cup & cone
> bottom
> > > brackets, not sealed. It
> > > was not until a year or more of production that
> the
> > > none taper, sealed
> > > "precision" bearing style emerged.
> > >
> > > Dale Brown
> > >
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