If the hanger is simply removed it will fit into an older style Simplex or Cyclo rear end with built-in derailleur hanger. It will not fit without modification to the hanger Campagnolo or similar style dropouts. Neither will I think it fit some 70s style Simplex dropouts with unthreaded hangers though I'm not quite so sure about that. Hilary Stone
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>From: John <velostuf@uswest.net>
>To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: [Classicrendezvous] Simplex TdF rear der
>Date: Tue, Oct 17, 2000, 1:38 pm
>
>
> I have a question for all you brainiacs.
>
> I have a Simplex Tour de France 5 speed rear der that has a der hanger
> attached to it. This would be useful for bikes that don't have an
> integral hanger on the dropout.
>
> Can this be removed so that the der can be used on a high quality bike
> that has an integral hanger? I know for instance that Huret Jubilee
> ders are NOT interchangeable without a small adapter plate.
>
> John Barron
> Minneapolis