Re: [Classicrendezvous] Re: Speaking of Japanese collectors

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From: "Takao Noda" <tanoda@d1.dion.ne.jp>
To: "Classic Bike List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Re: Speaking of Japanese collectors
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:10:02 +0900


I am reluctant to write this but I am a boy who have found the King's ears are donkey's ones.
    If some of you had another set of Mafac Top 63 and Campagnolo normal reach brake set , not only you but also I could be happy. I would sell the former at Japanese Yahoo Auction which you cannot have access because of the language barrier and I would take the latter as commission !! I know there is at least one( we must wish one more) Japanese collector who won't be able to win the Top 63 on the auction going on now. I believe you cannot imagine the price now.....
    Seriously speaking , I am also very much surprised to have found Japanese collectors' enthusiasm for some French parts, especially Top 63 ,Juy 543, Ideale old light -alloy railed saddles. I cannot explain it by the difficulty of import till mid1960s nor 2 -3 times lower value of yen then.
     As you know and Ken Toda mentioned, the price of land is very high in Japan , so we cannot collect as many bicycles as you do in U.S. Then they aim to get a perfect bicycle for them as possible. Maybe they aim to get a Toei which has the same components they have seen on a Rene Herse or Alex Singer catalog.
     And I think one reason is that they have some occasions when they can show off their bicycles each other; Poly Japon, Toei owners meeting," New cycling" subscribers meeting .... I have not heard of that of road-racing bicycles. About 15 years ago I once competed with a man on a beautiful Masi . He was miserable 85th and I on the Galmozzi was 86th in 105 racers. But absolutely we were serious and not showing off the bikes on the race !
                                  Takao Noda
                          Hachioji, Tokyo, Japan


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> About a year or so ago, someone advertised on rbm looking for a set of Top 63
> brakes. I actually had a set I had no plans for and replied I had no idea
> what they were worth. I sent some pics, they offered me $250. for them with a
> pair of Tiger calipers thrown in. At that, I threw in the shipping.
>
> Apparently its fashionable to have a modern, vintage style frame made but
> outfitted with vintage French parts.
>
> Hey, whatever turns you on. I'm digging out that Huret Luxe set!
>
> Ted Williams, Berkeley