Re: [Classicrendezvous] Another high for collectible parts?

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Ideale)

Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 17:41:44 -0800
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Another high for collectible parts?
From: "Dave Feldman" <feldmanbike@home.com>
To: "Jerry & Liz Moos" <moos@penn.com>, KCTOMMY <KCTOMMY@email.msn.com>
CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


What about first-generation Dura-Ace, the pre-EX/AX group? It had some interesting features as well as just being the first premium-quality all-Japanese group.

DF ----------
>From: Jerry & Liz Moos <moos@penn.com>
>To: KCTOMMY <KCTOMMY@email.msn.com>
>Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Another high for collectible parts?
>Date: Tue, Nov 7, 2000, 5:29 PM
>
>I agree that the collectability of classic Japanese parts has indeed begun. In
>addition to SunTour, Shimano AX is starting to become collectable. I was hoping
>AX would remain in disfavor until I collect enough AX components to complete the
>Japanese aero frame I got from Dale a while back, but no such luck. Maybe I can
>get some of those Japanese collectors to trade me AX components for French.
>
>Regards,
>
>Jerry Moos
>
>KCTOMMY wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Huemax@aol.com <Huemax@aol.com>
>> To: moos@penn.com <moos@penn.com>; info@renaissance-cycles.com
>> <info@renaissance-cycles.com>
>> Cc: p6man@home.com <p6man@home.com>; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 3:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Another high for collectible parts?
>>
>> >Hi, Jerry and all,
>> >
>>
>> SNIPPED
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>> >
>> >How about vintage Japanese parts? How many more years to wait, 10, 20,
>> or
>> >25 years?? Any thoughts, Jery or anyone??
>> >
>> >KEN TODA, over the hill Jap rider in Piedmont, NC, 26 yeras in the USA, 22
>> >yeras in Japan.
>> >
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >
>>
>> I think the vintage Japanese parts boom has already started. Suntour seems
>> to be leading the way. Suntour Cyclone GT derailers routinely go for $70
>> dollars on eBay, or thereabouts. Likewise, Suntour Bar Con shifters run
>> around $35 to $40 dollars on eBay. And of course the Rivendell boys are
>> forever touting the merits of Suntour Retrofriction down tube shifters. Not
>> earth shattering prices compared to hundreds of $ for French stuff, but
>> considering the original price, the price of new stuff, and the prices paid
>> for comparable shimano stuff, I think it's a substantial premium. No doubt
>> it has something to do with rarity too. I think the rarer, top end bikes
>> like Miyatas and Fujis could be next.
>>
>> Tom Adams in Cold Kansas City