Re: [Classicrendezvous] Swiss bikes and stems

(Example: Production Builders:Frejus)

Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 11:37:19 -0500
From: Jerry Moos <moos@penn.com>
To: Larry Osborn <losborn2@wvu.edu>
CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Swiss bikes and stems
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Do such Raleighs have a flatted washer or did they just let the keyed washer butt against the flat? (This does work but isn't very elegant). With the Swiss reputation for thoroughness (Swiss watches and all) you'd expect them to be a bit more exacting than the lads at Nottingham. Speaking of Nottingham, were Professionals and Internationals ever made there, or were they produced only at Worksop and Ilkeston? If the latter, are they usually free of the indifferent quality sometimes observed in other Raleigh models?

Regards,

Jerry "haven't owned a Raleigh since my wife's 1977 Grand Prix sold a couple of years later" Moos

Larry Osborn wrote:
> At 08:41 AM 11/9/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >Well I measured pretty carefully with calpers, not just the stem in
> question but
> >known 22.2 amd 22.0 stems for comparison. The bike in question has a
> Campy HS
> >with a flat on the back of the lock washer to match the flat on the back
> of the
> >steerer.
>
> Every flatted as opposed to slotted steerer I have ever seen was French
> >threaded.
>
> Oh Jerry, your world must be blissfully free of Raleighs. I wish I could
> say the same of mine. Apparently some days the gang at Raleigh didn't take
> the time to cut a nice slot in the steerer. They just took the fork over to
> the nearest grinder and "machined" a flat on it, English threads and all. I
> never know what I'm going to find on those silly bikes. A delightful
> combination of English eccentricity and French quirkiness. It doesn't get
> any better that this.
>
> Larry "I'll take the blow to the head" Osborn