Re: [Classicrendezvous] Re: source of Campy NR BB spindles?

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 18:10:56 -0800
From: "Brian Baylis" <rocklube@adnc.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Re: source of Campy NR BB spindles?
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Marc,

Let's step outside and work this out.

Brian
>
> Brian,
>
> You're making assumptions about my dislike towards EA that I don't appreciate.
> While price is one aspect that keeps me from buying from them, I certainly
> understand their motive. It's purely business, and I don't take that aspect
> personally, as you seem to suggest. So, in the future please don't exercise
> clairvoyance and character assessment, then proceed to post it where everyone can
> see. My reasons for not liking EA are not important, but the reasons come from
> personal dealings with them, and mainly from feedback from many shops that have
> dealt with them. If you were privy to what I know, it might give you reasons for
> concern. But, I am glad you have had a long and good business relationship with
> them.
>
> Marc Boral
>
> Brian Baylis wrote:
>
> > Marc,
> >
> > Ease up on Euro-Asia Imports. I've been dealing with them for over 25
> > years and I've never experienced any "shifty" deals or fraud. Give them
> > a break for crying out loud. I understand that they won't sell campy
> > stuff at pennies on the dollar which is all you're interested in, but
> > business is business. You are no different. Countine to search high and
> > low for bargins, they do the same; and when they find things regardless
> > of what they pay for it they have to turn a profit. They are actually IN
> > the bike business, and have been for a considerably long time. There is
> > no doubt their prices are high but they know the market and are not to
> > blame for what the current market value is on these items. There are at
> > least two major factors that have contributed to the premium price of
> > these items; ebay being one of them. I'm not going to say what the other
> > one is but it includes people much closer to home than you want to look.
> > As always, just my opinion.
> >
> > Brian Baylis
> > La Mesa, CA
> > >
> > > Geeeez! I personally don't like Euro Asia for many reasons, but never thought
> > > they would stoop that low. You're absolutely correct about that being
> > > "shifty". That is fraud. If the spindle has no markings on it, then it's
> > > almost hopeless to figure out its origin.
> > >
> > > Marc Boral
> > >
> > > Jmschaer@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > In a message dated 11/25/00 1:43:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > mbikealive@earthlink.net writes:
> > > >
> > > > > I believe this was the house brand for Euro Asia (American distributor).
> > > >
> > > > Speaking of Euro-Asia Imports, I purchased an Italian-thread NR bb from them
> > > > a few years ago. When I received it, all was original Campy except the
> > > > spindle. It seemed well machined, but was very obviously not a Campy. No
> > > > markings at all. In my opinion, it didn't run as smooth as a true Campy
> > > > spindle would.
> > > >
> > > > I felt this was a bit shifty. I understand if the correct spindles were not
> > > > available. But the fact that what was being shipped was not completely a
> > > > Campy product should have been indicated before purchase, either in the
> > > > catalog or apon ordering. Subsequently I've seen NIB campy BB's cheaper than
> > > > what I paid wholesale anyways. I asked E-A who made the spindle, and they
> > > > wouldn't say. Anyone have knowlege of where these were or may have been
> > > > sourced.
> > > >
> > > > Jon Schaer