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> 1. Re: Atala (swampmtn)
> 2. Re: Atala and "Schwinn Approved" plus commercial (Rick Chasteen)
> 3. Re: Re: 1970's Peugeot UO8 - is it worth it? (philcycles@aol.com)
> 4. Re: Atala and "Schwinn Approved" plus commercial (Russ Fitzgerald)
> 5. quiz night (swampmtn)
> 6. NOS Mavic rims available (Randall Nelson)
> 7. Buckle up!(toestraps for sale in packages) (abikie@aol.com)
> 8. RE: Atala and the maligned Chiordas (Charles Andrews)
> 9. Re:Corrected Buckle up!(toestraps for sale in packages)
(abikie@aol.com)
> 10. FINAL CORRECTION Buckle up!(toestraps for sale in packages)
(abikie@aol.com)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> From: "swampmtn" <swampmtn@siscom.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Atala
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:30:49 -0500
>
> You have to remember that companies like Atala, Olmo, and Benotto made an
> entire range of bikes for the Italian market... from tiny toddler bikes,
to
> 3-speed city bikes, to high-end and low-end racing bikes. The bike boom
> years certainly brought more of their worst products to the USA, where you
> could sell anything with two wheels. Even Bianchi and Legnano sold some
> very low-end "racing" style bikes, right along side their high-end Campy
> racers.
>
> I have a '60 Atala, '60 Olmo, '62 Legnano, '68 Paramount, and '73 Atala,
and
> they are similar quality in terms of assembly, finish, and performance.
All
> feature nice chrome headlugs and ends. All have Campagnolo's best
> components of the year. They're not as nice as a custom frame from a
little
> company, but they were after a different market.
>
> From what I've seen, Atala's lowest bikes of the '70s were still better
than
> Huffys. Same holds true of the lowest Bianchis, etc.
>
> Aldo Ross
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: "Rick Chasteen" <chasteen@kcaccess.net>
> To: "John" <bikehunt@pacbell.net>, "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com>,
> <jfbender@umich.edu>
> Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Atala and "Schwinn Approved" plus
commercial
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:45:29 -0600
>
> John:
>
> The disconcerting aspect of stem mounted shifters is, when the cyclist
> stands on the pedals to sprint or climb, the levers and mount lacerate the
> knees and/or puncture the kneecaps.
>
> Your pal,
>
> Rick "just acquired a Raleigh Competition" Chasteen
> Kansas City
>
>
> > Just out of curiosity, what is it, exactly, that makes stem mounted
> shifters
> > "ridiculous"?? Stop guffawing, you veteran experts. I really want to
> know.
> >
> > John Dunn in Napa Valley
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> From: Philcycles@aol.com
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:47:29 EST
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Re: 1970's Peugeot UO8 - is it worth it?
> To: maryp@pfeifferpframes.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>
>
> In a message dated 11/30/0 3:33:47 AM, maryp@pfeifferpframes.com writes:
>
> >I have a customer that is considering restoring a Peugeot UO8 (mid
1970's).
> >
> >He is uncertain about the value of it once it is restored and whether it
> >
> >would be worth the cost. He has already polished and rechromed the 3 arm
> >
> >cotter cranks, Mafac center pull brakes and the Simplex Nylon
derailleurs.
> >
> >Can anyone give me any information or feedback I can pass on to him.
> >
> >I can easily reproduce the decals and yellow paint job.
>
> >Mary Pfeiffer
>
> Good question. I know a guy who spent $1000 to have Cyclart restore a UO-8
> but it was his childhood bike. They weren't great bikes but if he wants
to...
> Phil brown
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> Reply-To: "Russ Fitzgerald" <rfitzger@emeraldis.com>
> From: "Russ Fitzgerald" <rfitzger@emeraldis.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Atala and "Schwinn Approved" plus
commercial
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:57:41 -0500
>
> John Dunn asks a fair enough question when he asks -
>
>
> >Just out of curiosity, what is it, exactly, that makes stem mounted
> shifters
> >"ridiculous"?? Stop guffawing, you veteran experts. I really want to
know.
>
> Part one - some of us who were riding in the early to mid 70s tended to
> equate stem shifters and brake "safety" extension levers with cheap bikes.
> They also wound up coming on moderate/decent quality machines as time
> passed. They were perceived by those of us who knew better as the lazy
> person's choice. You braked from the top center and never reached very
far
> to shift. Stem shifters were perceived by some as yielding floppier,
> sloppier shifting than downtube levers, too - added cable length and all
> that. Like the safety levers, they were viewed as something for less than
> serious cyclists - you could buy a bike that looked sort of like a racing
> machine, but sit on it and ride like it was a 3-speed utility bike, but
> without their common sense features.
>
> Part two, and more important - stem shifters were in a very good position
to
> do damage in the event of a crash. If one's bike stopped abruptly, but
one
> continued forward, those of us of the male persuasion risked becoming sudd
en
> sopranos on those suddenly spear-like, punji-stick-ish stem shifters.
> They could be a liability, or so the reasoning went where I grew up. They
> were matched by the generally poor braking one got with the safety levers.
>
> Part three - they contributed greatly to the general disdain some of us
held
> (and still hold, btw) for the Consumer Product Safety Commission. That
> august body felt quite comfortable in contemplating banning quick release
> wheels and requiring Campagnolo redesign the Nuovo Record fd cage, while
> simultaneously allowing the sale of bikes with castrati shifters and bad
> brake levers. I am among those who began a long career of sneering at
> well-meaning but clueless do-gooder types as a result of the CPSC's often
> questionable rulings.
>
> Of course, we were ALL innocent of knowing that the day would come when
> long, floppy gear cables connected to complicated shifting mechanisms
would
> be considered the norm, and everyone had to have dual-pivot brakes because
> their bars were so low they couldn't reach the drops without hurting
> themselves ... but I digress.
>
> Russ Fitzgerald
> Greenwood SC
> rfitzger@emeraldis.com
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "swampmtn" <swampmtn@siscom.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:15:07 -0500
> Subject: [Classicrendezvous] quiz night
>
> Look in your WCP Fall/Winter catelogue, page 22...
>
> What's wrong with this page? This is a 2-part vintage racing question.
>
> First correct response wins free membership to the National Society for =
> the Prevention of Inacuracies.
>
> Aldo Ross
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> From: "Randall Nelson" <rbnelson48@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "classic bike group" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:36:32 -0800
> Subject: [Classicrendezvous] NOS Mavic rims available
>
> Dear All:
> Bill Carl at Greggs here in Seattle knows I listen to and occasionally
talk
> to members of this group and asked me if there was any interest in the
> following rims...all 27x1 1/4 40 hole. Mod 3's and Mod 4's and old 3 with
> the red diamond logo. He has little call for this type of rim and will
offer
> them to any of us at $14.99 and shipping per rim. Dealers/resellers are
> welcome too as he has about 20 rims available.
>
> Bill can be reached at 206-523-1822 in Seattle or check out the website at
> http://www.greggscycles.com/
> I think email can get to him there but its best to call.
>
> Note...He also has a pretty complete collection of Regina freewheel cogs
in
> the hall in back of the register if anyone is in need of a spare cog or
so.
> Same for Dura ace twist tooth and Suntour freewheel cogs.
>
> No connection except that I'd like to see someone get their project done.
> Cheers,
> Randy Nelson
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: ABikie@aol.com
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:28:24 EST
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [Classicrendezvous] Buckle up!(toestraps for sale in packages)
>
> Fellow CR's
>
> While seeking some red Lapize straps for Chuck Schmidt for over a month,
and
> came upon many others I didn't remember having.I
> am over-strapped.
> I will entertain trades as well as make it into a sale and public service
to
> listees.
>
> If you have gone clipless, you can use them for all of the following and
more
> (except I)
>
> A. the finishing touches on their classic bikes
> B. something nifty to hold on their spare tubular
> C. pants clips
> D. belts
> E emergency arm sling
> F bike security on car carriers, rear or roof
> G. pannier and saddlebag straps.
> H garden hose or extension cord cinches
> I many more including holding cleated shoes to pedals
>
>
>
> alfredo BINDA
> Super = Glove soft leather bonded to a kevlar-type ballistic material
> providing the ultimnate in stiffness and resistance to stretching
> New in classy original packaging with graphics. All Natural
colored
> leather with Black composite backing with white 'Alfredo
> binda'
> screened on or white backing with black letters.Plated buckles
with
> the famous 'Binda' innscript neatly die-stamped, not just
> printed. $20 per pair
> Classic - Same stamped buckle as the Super, bit plain stiff leather
and
> no lamination material
> The trademark avant-garde typestyle deep-stamping of 'Alfredo
Binda'
> is what's most remembered,
> These are not for sale separately but a free pair is included
with
> every $50 of straps, as is free shipping and insurance.
>
> SPECIAlIZED Model 3 - made in Italy (probably by Binda)
> Finely-tanned blue, red, or white leather.In original poly bag with
> header and backing card.
> "top grain leather' and Specialized's older logo. Deep-embossing of
"made
> in Italy' without filler paint as well as 'Specialized'
> embossed with filler paint.'Specialized' stamped into the plated
buckle
> $15per pair
>
> COLNAGO - These resemble what was the Binda EXTRA, with leather laminated
on
> both sides of a non-stretch center.
> The strap is then perforated for style and lightness.The
perforations
> are interrupted where the buckle teeth would grab for more
> security and to accept the Colnago name and logo. The buckle itself
> also has three holes, in a nice pattern at the end, two smaller
> ones and one larger.An even larger hole with a unique stamped bevel
is
> punched where the thumb would push.
> This buckle is plated and finished around the edges like no other,
and
> also features the famous Colnago club surrounded by their
> C logo. $40 in original packages with graphics.
>
> CINELLI - Black, Similar to Binda Extra. Another 'sandwich', with the
> non-stretch center and leather 'bread'
> Simple bright buckle of stainless steel with a very unique
feature -
> there's no place for the strap end to be 'tucked in'
> Probably because many of us 'purists' that like to 'cinch for the
mad
> dash (sprint) want quick access to the end. and many believe
> that only casual tourists tuck the end in and leave the strap
> looser.To facilitate a tighter cinch, they've included a pair of bright
> silver end buttons, suitable for bingo markers as well.
> So that must make this a 'pro' model? Winged C and name screened
on
> the black leather and the winged C stamped into the
> buckle. $25 a pair in original poly bag .
>
> CAMPAGNOLO - Similar to the Cinelli with the laminated leather, but in
> natural. With the exact buckle (sans tuck-in), but with a very
> classy and functional custom and unique soft rubber cover over the
> rivet and strap connector. Proprietary, oversized end buttons.
> and Campagnolo embossed (not just screened) in two places per strap.
> Original sealed poly bag with blue Campagnolo script
> stamped throughout. $40 /pr.
>
>
> CHRISTOPHE PLUS - 'Special Reinforced Laminated Straps' according to the
> header card on the sealed poly bag.
> Unique Black Anodised ALUMINUM ALLOY buckle. Straps are laminated
like
> the Cinelli, with 'Christophe Plus' embossed and
> black stamped into the deep brown natural leather. $15 pair
>
> Christophe or Lapize - Black, White, Red, and Blue (no red lapize)
> Made in France, Nice leather with white or black embossing on
strap
> and logo stamped in the plated buckle.
> $7 pair in original poly bag with instructions and header card.
>
> Cinelli Bingo Markers (strap end buttons) white (maybe colors available)
> $2.50/pr (a small popcorn at the movies or 1.6 gallons of
> regular petrol), or free w/$50 order
>
>
> All straps have been around for awhile and except for the oxidised rivets
on
> the 'free-with-purchase' Bindas (still new in sealed packs) all are
perfect
> and new.
>
>
> send an email if interested.
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: Charles Andrews <chasa@classicalradio.org>
> To: "'youngc@netreach.net'" <youngc@netreach.net>
> Cc: "'classicrendezvous@bikelist.org'" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: RE: [Classicrendezvous] Atala and the maligned Chiordas
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:42:03 -0800
>
> For those who may not be aware of at least part of the Chiorda story:
> Bianchi bought the rights to the Chiorda name sometime in the late 60s (so
> my sources have said), and nearly their first frame under the marque was a
> lovely top-quality racing design, built at the Reparto Corse (apparently),
> full Campagnolo NR. I have one, just like Brian's (mine's repainted,
> alas--great paint, but still...and Brian keeps trying to get me to sell it
> to him ;>). I haven't assembled mine yet, but I can tell just from
looking
> at it that it's going to be a fantastic ride.
>
> The originals were deep metallic blue, white highlights and graphics, and
> were ridden by the Chiorda team, led by Felice Gimondi, in the early 70s.
> Supposedly something like under 100 of these frames were ever imported to
> the US, although I have *no* confirmation of that (anyone know more?)
>
> After that frame, it seems Bianchi destroyed the marque by making a long
> line of stove-pipe bikes with Chiorda stickers, as has been discussed. I
> think the marque may actually still be appearing on bikes in Europe, but
> from what I've seen, they're all low-line junk.
>
> I'm sure someone can tell us the early history of the marque: who was
> Chiorda? Famous racer maybe? I know there is at least one nice Chiorda
> from the 50s or 60s illustrated in The World of Daniel Rebour; before
> Bianchi ruined the name, Chiorda seems to have been a small shop making
> high-quality custom frames for european teams...what Bianchi did strikes
me
> about the same as if Basso started putting the Pogliaghi name on $99
Huffies
> (no offense intended to anyone...)..
>
> Charles Andrews
> Los Angeles
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: youngc@netreach.net [mailto:youngc@netreach.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:16 PM
> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Atala and the maligned Chiordas
> >
> >
> > I had a Chiorda in college ca. 1972 that I bought for ~$25 to
> > replace my stolen UO-8. It made the UO-8 seem like a dream bike.
> > I seem to recall that it had a strange splined steel crankset.
> > The bike worked OK around campus but wasn't much fun. Given away
> > to somebody less fortunate than myself when I purchased my
> > Viscount AP in 1976.
> >
> > Charlie Young, waiting for snow in Honeybrook
> >
> > > I think top level Atalas and Bottechias were OK bikes but I
> > remember
> > > swearing over the low line bikes with things like chainlines
> > from hell that
> > > would throw chains with any possible adjustment. My first
> > impressions of
> > > lower line Italian bikes came from these and I summarized the
> > attitude as
> > > "if you can't afford a good bike then go to hell".
> > >
> > > The concept from trademark law is tarnishment. Basically they
> > tarnished
> > > their own brand because of the quality spread across the line
> > of bikes.
> > >
> > > Even worse was Chiorda. I have never heard of a Chiorda fan
> > but the top
> > > bike was all Campy etc.
> > >
> > > Joe Bender-Zanoni
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 10:29 PM 11/29/00, brian blum wrote:
> > > >That was my next question, why are there no Atala fans? They
> > were quite
> > > >popular back in the late 60's was the quality not as good as
> > Bianchi? I
> > > >liked the chrome.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----Original Message Follows----
> > > >From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>
> > > >To: brianblum@hotmail.com
> > > >CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > > >Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Eugene sloans book /
> > Olmo / Mystery
> > > > Frame?????????????
> > > >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:06:09 -0500
> > > >
> > > >if i recall, it was an atala 101.
> > > >e-RICHIE
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:19:40 "brian blum"
> > <brianblum@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > > > I picked up an old repainted bike last night. It had a
> > seat cluster
> > > > > simular
> > > > > to the bike pictured on the back cover of the original
> > "The Complete
> > > > > Book of
> > > > > Bicycling" (it was a blue frame only the rear half
> > shown). The bike
> > > > > I
> > > > > obtained has brazed on cable stops so it has no housing on
> > the top
> > > > > tube. It
> > > > > also has a double slotted BB shell, Campy Dropouts, Short
> > rake fork
> > > > > with a
> > > > > crown profile simular to the Raleigh International with
> > the long
> > > > > middle
> > > > > tougue. Very short lugs sockets hybid head lugs a hybrid
> > of Colnago
> > > > > lugs
> > > > > with extra details (morphing toward Nervex Pro Lugs). I
> > could not
> > > > > resist. It
> > > > > was fitted with non original SR frt and rear derailleurs,
> > record
> > > > > crank,
> > > > > brakes and H/S, Simplex retrofriction levers and jap
> > assorted. 70mm
> > > > > BB
> > > > > fluted chainstays. What could it be? Owner said some had
> > > > > speculated Olmo.
> > > > > And what is the gorgeous Blue bike on The Complete Book of
> > > > > Bicycling? JPEGS
> > > > > WILL eventually come.
> > > > >
> > >
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>
> Message: 9
> From: ABikie@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:07:57 EST
> To: ABikie@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [Classicrendezvous] Re:Corrected Buckle up!(toestraps for sale in
packages)
>
> SORRY, I went to answer and add up a strap order and noticed a mistake in
the
> Christophe plus straps.
> Corrected list follows:
> Fellow CR's
>
> While seeking some red Lapize straps for Chuck Schmidt for over a month,
and
> came upon many others I didn't remember having.I
> am over-strapped.
> I will entertain trades as well as make it into a sale and public service
to
> listees.
>
> If you have gone clipless, you can use them for all of the following and
> more
> (except I)
>
> A. the finishing touches on their classic bikes
> B. something nifty to hold on their spare tubular
> C. pants clips
> D. belts
> E emergency arm sling
> F bike security on car carriers, rear or roof
> G. pannier and saddlebag straps.
> H garden hose or extension cord cinches
> I many more including holding cleated shoes to pedals
>
>
>
> alfredo BINDA
> Super = Glove soft leather bonded to a kevlar-type ballistic material
> providing the ultimnate in stiffness and resistance to stretching
> New in classy original packaging with graphics. All Natural
colored
> leather with Black composite backing with white 'Alfredo
> binda'
> screened on or white backing with black letters.Plated buckles
with
> the famous 'Binda' innscript neatly die-stamped, not just
> printed. $20 per pair
> Classic - Same stamped buckle as the Super, bit plain stiff leather
> and
> no lamination material
> The trademark avant-garde typestyle deep-stamping of 'Alfredo
> Binda'
> is what's most remembered,
> These are not for sale separately but a free pair is included
with
> every $50 of straps, as is free shipping and insurance.
>
> SPECIAlIZED Model 3 - made in Italy (probably by Binda)
> Finely-tanned blue, red, or white leather.In original poly bag with
> header and backing card.
> "top grain leather' and Specialized's older logo. Deep-embossing of
> "made
> in Italy' without filler paint as well as 'Specialized'
> embossed with filler paint.'Specialized' stamped into the plated
buckle
>
> $15per pair
>
> COLNAGO - These resemble what was the Binda EXTRA, with leather laminated
on
> both sides of a non-stretch center.
> The strap is then perforated for style and lightness.The
perforations
> are interrupted where the buckle teeth would grab for more
> security and to accept the Colnago name and logo. The buckle itself
> also has three holes, in a nice pattern at the end, two smaller
> ones and one larger.An even larger hole with a unique stamped bevel
is
> punched where the thumb would push.
> This buckle is plated and finished around the edges like no other,
and
> also features the famous Colnago club surrounded by their
> C logo. $40 in original packages with graphics.
>
> CINELLI - Black, Similar to Binda Extra. Another 'sandwich', with the
> non-stretch center and leather 'bread'
> Simple bright buckle of stainless steel with a very unique
feature -
> there's no place for the strap end to be 'tucked in'
> Probably because many of us 'purists' that like to 'cinch for the
mad
> dash (sprint) want quick access to the end. and many believe
> that only casual tourists tuck the end in and leave the strap
> looser.To facilitate a tighter cinch, they've included a pair of bright
> silver end buttons, suitable for bingo markers as well.
> So that must make this a 'pro' model? Winged C and name screened
on
> the black leather and the winged C stamped into the
> buckle. $25 a pair in original poly bag .
>
> CAMPAGNOLO - Similar to the Cinelli with the laminated leather, but in
> natural. With the exact buckle (sans tuck-in), but with a very
> classy and functional custom and unique soft rubber cover over the
> rivet and strap connector. Proprietary, oversized end buttons.
> and Campagnolo embossed (not just screened) in two places per
strap.
> Original sealed poly bag with blue Campagnolo script
> stamped throughout. $40 /pr.
>
>
> CHRISTOPHE PLUS - 'Special Reinforced Laminated Straps' according to the
> header card on the sealed poly bag.
> Unique Black Anodised ALUMINUM ALLOY buckle. Straps are laminated
> like
> the Cinelli, with 'Christophe Plus' embossed and
> black stamped into the deep brown natural leather. $20 pair
>
> Christophe or Lapize - Black, White, Red, and Blue (no red lapize)
> Made in France, Nice leather with white or black embossing on
strap
> and logo stamped in the plated buckle.
> $7 pair in original poly bag with instructions and header card.
>
> Cinelli Bingo Markers (strap end buttons) white (maybe colors available)
> $2.50/pr (a small popcorn at the movies or 1.6 gallons of
> regular petrol), or free w/$50 order
>
>
> All straps have been around for awhile and except for the oxidised rivets
on
> the 'free-with-purchase' Bindas (still new in sealed packs) all are
perfect
> and new.
>
>
> send an email if interested.
>
>
>
>
>
> ___________
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> From: ABikie@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:28:09 EST
> To: ABikie@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [Classicrendezvous] FINAL CORRECTION Buckle up!(toestraps for
sale in packages)
>
> I made another goof and will proofread, scout's honor, if Dale doesn't
put
> me in the slammer or in the sheep pen with him.
> I had the Cinelli and the Supers prices reversed, and the Specialized were
> overpriced which I found out when adding some up for someone.
> Of course, I honored the lower prices for those two who ordered before I
> discovered the goofs.
>
> <<
> While seeking some red Lapize straps for Chuck Schmidt for over a month,
> and
> came upon many others I didn't remember having.I
> am over-strapped.
> I will entertain trades as well as make it into a sale and public
service
> to
> listees.
>
> If you have gone clipless, you can use them for all of the following and
> more
> (except I)
>
> A. the finishing touches on their classic bikes
> B. something nifty to hold on their spare tubular
> C. pants clips
> D. belts
> E emergency arm sling
> F bike security on car carriers, rear or roof
> G. pannier and saddlebag straps.
> H garden hose or extension cord cinches
> I many more including holding cleated shoes to pedals
>
>
>
> ALFREDO BINDA
> SUPER= Glove soft leather bonded to a kevlar-type ballistic material
> providing the ultimnate in stiffness and resistance to stretching
> New in classy original packaging with graphics. All Natural
colored
> leather with Black composite backing with white 'Alfredo
> binda'
> screened on or white backing with black letters.Plated buckles
with
> the famous 'Binda' innscript neatly die-stamped, not just
> printed. $25 per pair
> CLASSIC - Same stamped buckle as the Super, bit plain stiff
leather
> and
> no lamination material
> The trademark avant-garde typestyle deep-stamping of 'Alfredo
> Binda'
> is what's most remembered,
> These are not for sale separately but a free pair is included
with
> every $50 of straps, as is free shipping and insurance.
>
> SPECIAlIZED Model 3 - made in Italy (probably by Binda)
> Finely-tanned blue, red, or white leather.In original poly bag with
> header and backing card.
> "top grain leather' and Specialized's older logo. Deep-embossing of
> "made
> in Italy' without filler paint as well as 'Specialized'
> embossed with filler paint.'Specialized' stamped into the plated
> buckle
>
> $12per pair
>
> COLNAGO - These resemble what was the Binda EXTRA, with leather
laminated
> on
> both sides of a non-stretch center.
> The strap is then perforated for style and lightness.The
perforations
> are interrupted where the buckle teeth would grab for more
> security and to accept the Colnago name and logo. The buckle
itself
> also has three holes, in a nice pattern at the end, two smaller
> ones and one larger.An even larger hole with a unique stamped
bevel
> is
> punched where the thumb would push.
> This buckle is plated and finished around the edges like no other,
> and
> also features the famous Colnago club surrounded by their
> C logo. $40 in original packages with graphics.
>
> CINELLI - Black, Similar to Binda Extra. Another 'sandwich', with the
> non-stretch center and leather 'bread'
> Simple bright buckle of stainless steel with a very unique
feature -
> there's no place for the strap end to be 'tucked in'
> Probably because many of us 'purists' that like to 'cinch for the
> mad
> dash (sprint) want quick access to the end. and many believe
> that only casual tourists tuck the end in and leave the strap
> looser.To facilitate a tighter cinch, they've included a pair of bright
> silver end buttons, suitable for bingo markers as well.
> So that must make this a 'pro' model? Winged C and name screened
on
> the black leather and the winged C stamped into the
> buckle. $20 a pair in original poly bag .
>
> CAMPAGNOLO - Similar to the Cinelli with the laminated leather, but in
> natural. With the exact buckle (sans tuck-in), but with a very
> classy and functional custom and unique soft rubber cover over the
> rivet and strap connector. Proprietary, oversized end buttons.
> and Campagnolo embossed (not just screened) in two places per
strap.
> Original sealed poly bag with blue Campagnolo script
> stamped throughout. $40 /pr.
>
>
> CHRISTOPHE PLUS - 'Special Reinforced Laminated Straps' according to the
> header card on the sealed poly bag.
> Unique Black Anodised ALUMINUM ALLOY buckle. Straps are laminated
> like
> the Cinelli, with 'Christophe Plus' embossed and
> black stamped into the deep brown natural leather. $20 pair
>
> Christophe or Lapize - Black, White, Red, and Blue (no red lapize)
> Made in France, Nice leather with white or black embossing on
strap
> and logo stamped in the plated buckle.
> $7 pair in original poly bag with instructions and header card.
>
> Cinelli Bingo Markers (strap end buttons) white (maybe colors
available)
> $2.50/pr (a small popcorn at the movies or 1.6 gallons of
> regular petrol), or free w/$50 order
>
>
> All straps have been around for awhile and except for the oxidised
rivets
> on
> the 'free-with-purchase' Bindas (still new in sealed packs) all are
perfect
> and new.
>
>
> send an email if interested.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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