Re: [CR]Pantagraph Parts?

(Example: Humor:John Pergolizzi)

Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 23:17:42 -0800
From: "Marc Boral" <mbikealive@earthlink.net>
CC: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR]Pantagraph Parts?
References: <01C06ACF.2C287F80@85-143-237-24.jun-dial.gci.net>


Hi Mike,

Pantographing is an industrial engraving almost always performed by an engraving company. The engraving company is typically contracted by the frame builder who's frames the components are assembled on. For instance: Colnago purchases stock Campagnolo components directly from Campagnolo. Colnago then sends a selected portion of the Campy components to an relatively local industrial engraver to perform the pantographing. Campagnolo (the company) does not offer or perform any pantographing service. In fact I have heard the pantographed components void Campagnolo's warranty, but I can't that with certainty. It so happens that most Italian frame builders used the same engraving company. This is evident by the pantographed design shared by so many frame manufactures. Usually just the logo is changed, or the design is slightly changed.

I have a lot of American Masis, and this is my opinion regarding your question: American Masis had the option of these "engraved" components: 3ttt bars/stems, seatpost, pump. Alberto's Masis, I have no personal hands-on experience with. I can only say that more pantographed components were equipped on Alberto's bikes.

Marc Boral

Mike & Barb Kelly wrote:
> Are pantograph parts generally made by a manufacturer or most often farmed out or maybe completely made outside of the Bike maker by license?
>
> I am curious about the pantograph parts available for Masi. Masi was never known as a "fully pantographed" beast (I don't think) but I have found there
> are more items out there than I expected.
>
> Can any of the list members tell us what was available and for what period? Which might be Faliero 70's and which items Alberto 80's?
>
> I know there are:
> seatposts
> stems
> handlebars
> shiftlevers
> pumps?
>
> Were there any other items?
>
> I have a seatpost that is NR fluted that came with my 74' Italian Alberto. My wife has seatpost, stem, shiftlevers on her 81" Prestige that came on the bike.
>
> Thanks for any info.