David and all, I have seen only one Peugeot track bike and I will agree with Joseph on the uncharacteric quality. It too had Campy ends with beautiful lug work. I spoke with David some time ago about a Peugeot plant tour taken by an east cost shop owner and Peugeot nut. He did happen to mention that he did not see any track bikes hanging in the "Prestige Shop". That is not to say that they did not braze any, just that there were none around at the time of his two visits. Custom Peugeot's were also brazed elswhere, I assume other custom builders in France were sub-contracted. Back in the day, Peugeot used to boast about the fact that the bikes sold in stores were the same ones the Team raced. True? Untrue? There were fillet brazed, Team-issue Peugeots not seen on the plant tours either. Interesting, and probably pointless note, if any of you have the "Intimate Portraits of the Tour de France" book; look at the Bernard Thevenet chapter. There is a picture of him laying on the ground after his 1972 fall. Behind him is a picture of his Peugeot, apparently held up by a fan or a mechanic. Look closely at the rear dropouts and you will notice fender eyelets. A team mechanic could have filed them, could they not?
Don Andersen
>I do not know about this designation but I have seen these and they are
>quite a nice track bike. Real track bike values depend greatly on proximity
>to velodromes. A Campy track gruppo has a very fixed value. Used it cannot
>be worth less than $300 for the gruppo I would say. Some trackie out there
>would jump at this bike for $500 easy. And I have seen these bikes go for
>more than that. This is interesting because I am valuing this bike on a
>utilitarian basis rather than a collector basis.
>
>Just to pick on the Francophiles you will notice that when the going gets
>tough (track use) the components go Campy. And even Campy submitted to
>getting stuff NJS approved for Japanese Keirin. USA collectors looking for
>rarities should try and find NJS approved Campy.
>
>Joe Bender-Zanoni
>It's still snowing in Ann Arbor!
>
>At 04:42 PM 12/13/00 -0500, David Goerndt wrote:
> >I received this inquiry about a Peugeot track bike. I have no info on
>track
> >bikes built by Peugeot so I was wondering if anyone has any info.
> >
> ><"I have a 1972 peugeot PX12 track bike. The bike is all campy including
> >ends
> ><and crank(1/2 inch pitch), reynolds 531 double butted, white in perfect
> ><condition with Mavic rims and campy hubs. Do you have any info on this
> >model
> ><? Does it have any value?"
> >
> >The designation sounds wrong for a track bike, even a road bike of that
> >vintage.
> >
> >David Goerndt