Marc:
Do you have Syncro I's that were packed with the skinny cables? I had the impression that the early ones were packed with wound stainless housing and fat cables. Maybe that's why they never worked for me, I was using the wrong cables... oh never mind, they never worked for anyone!
Did the Syncro I's use the same inserts as the II's? I recall the Chorus having it's own suite of inserts for 6 and 7 speeds in both A and B positions and I never thought of those as Syncro I fare. Thus I assumed that the II came out in support of the Chorus. But we all know what happens when we assume...
In any event, do you know the answer to the more pressing question (from my perspective) of when the fat cables went from the coarse to the fine windings?
Tom Dalton
> I respectfully disagree. All the NOS sets of Syncro
> (debut in '87) I
> have, come with the thinner stainless cables.
> Syncro II debuted in '88,
> a year after Chorus.
>
> Marc Boral
>
>
> Tom Dalton wrote:
>
> > As I recall, the first generation Syncro levers
> used
> > the heavy cables and the Snycro II's used the
> skinny
> > cables. Because the switch to an
> index-appropriate
> > cable on the Syncro II was the driving force
> behind
> > the change, it is the first appearence of those
> > shifters that you need to date. I realize that I
> am
> > answering your question with another question, but
> it
> > should be much easier to determine when Campy
> > introduced a new indexing system than a new type
> of
> > cable.
> >
> > My best guess on the intro of the Syncro II would
> be
> > that it coincided with the intro of Chorus. I
> think I
> > remember first seeing ad for Chorus in the fall of
> > 1987.
> >
> > As a point of general info to all list subscribers
> I
> > offer the following, and request correction if I
> am in
> > error:
> >
> > The oldest Campy cables in my stash are made up of
> > heavy strands wound at a shollow angle relative to
> the
> > length of the wire. The surface of the cable is
> > somewhat rough. The head is stamped with a
> > C-in-diamond logo on top.
> >
> > The next newer cables are have the same marking
> and
> > are the same thickness, but the starnds are finer
> and
> > are wound at a steeper angle (they wind around
> more
> > times). The suface is smoother. I think these
> came
> > around in the early 80's, but I have no real basis
> for
> > that assertion.
> >
> > The next cables are identical to those above, but
> the
> > logo is on the side of the head and is just a
> plain C.
> > I think of these as early C-record cables,
> because
> > they are what came with the retrofrictions. That
> puts
> > them at 1985/86 to 1989 or so.
> >
> > As I mentioned above, I think the first thin
> cables
> > came with the first Syncro II's at the time of the
> > Chorus intro. If I'm wrong here it is likely that
> > they came out later when the large-wrap Syncro's
> came
> > out to operate double pivot (Campag-nono?) rear
> ders
> > in 1990.
> >
> > The only subsequent change that I have noticed is
> the
> > revision of the C logo on the side of the cable
> end to
> > a "C-in-circle" logo. This is an Ergopower (CTI?)
> > change that took place around 1994 (best quess).
> >
> > Any better info on my dates?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Dalton
> >
> > P.S. sorry for straying into the 1990's but I was
> > hoping to provide an overview of my observations.
> The
> > most relevant question to this group might be when
> the
> > change from the first to the second of the
> > above-referenced designs took place.
> >
> > Reid <bob.reid1@virgin.net> wrote:
> > > I'm sure there is an instant answer to this one
> (but
> > > I just don't know it)
> > >
> > > At what point in time did Campagnolo change
> their
> > > gear cables from the old
> > > heavyweight type (1.56 mm dia) to the more
> "modern"
> > > 1.2 mm cable ? for down
> > > tube levers.
> > >
> > > Bob Reid
> > > Stonehaven
> > > Scotland
> > >
> > > http://www.wheelscycles.co.uk
> > >
> > >
> > >
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