Any of you who have a copy of the Used Bike Buyers Guide on disk can do a search for "Germany". You will find 12 bike makes made in Germany. Interestingly, some of the ones mentioned in this discussion are not on there. And, I don't have a lot of information on the builders listed. But, it is a start. I'll be offering the guide to list members at a discounted price before the Cirque. I promise. Lou Deeter, Huntsville AL