Re: [CR]Re: more on decals

(Example: Framebuilders:Rene Herse)

To: feldmanbike@home.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, monkey37@bluemarble.net, cyclartist@home.com, bob.reid1@virgin.net
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:47:46 -0800
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: more on decals
From: Mark A. Perkins <bicyclemark@juno.com>


On a similar note, the man who did the original paint on my California-built KLEIN Team Super, once put a set of Schwinn Varsity decals on his own Team Super, but only for laughs. If you can't tell the difference in this case, you need help.

"Bicycle Mark" Perkins

On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:29:30 -0800 "Diane Feldman" <feldmanbike@home.com> writes:
> A cyclist in Portland some years ago put this idea into reverse.
> He had a Kessels/Main d'Or/Centurion Pro, a Belgian product sold by what is
> now Diamondback. After a plain red repaint, the Schwinn Pixie decals were
> applied along with a new Columbus sticker.
> David Feldman
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Monkeyman" <monkey37@bluemarble.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Cc: <cyclartist@home.com>; <bob.reid1@virgin.net>
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 1:04 PM
> Subject: [CR]Re: more on decals
>
>
> > Jim wrote:
> > > I only use them as part of properly servicing the correct frames.
> > >This is a permitted use because we take responsibility for the frames
> > >correct identification and roadworthiness. We do not compromise the
> > >trademark owner's control or increase his liability on old product.
> >
> > Something else to think about is I know all of us have seen a faked bike or
> > fifty. I'm not sure where people have gotten the decals but I've had many
> > an obvious english bike with italian decals walk into the shop. One of the
> > more legendary ones were Windsors relabeled as Masis. Remember in the 70's
> > every shop had a ton of 531 frame decals. Decals being available to
> > anybody does lead to fakes and wether the person has good intentions or bad
> > it's a bad things for bike collectors and the cycling community at large.
> >
> > In the pricing of a restoration people must also remember the price of
> > decals can sometimes be more than the price of paint. I've been looking
> > into getting my Raleigh Lenton Grand Prix restored but the price of the
> > downtube decal alone is more than I have into the bike right now. I think
> > everyone who loves bikes and has the know-how should try their hand at a
> > full restoration but don't be shocked if someone doesn't want to sell you
> > decals. With a hand scanner and photoshop it's easy enough to recreate
> > your own decals, but also tough enough so you'll understand why Jim and
> > Brian's cost so much.
> >
> > enjoy,
> > Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
> > sunny 78 Santa Barbara
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
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