Re: [CR]Cinelli -- pronunciation

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:25:36 -0800
From: "Lee Berg" <lberg@ventoux.com>
To: siverson@garlic.com, classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR]Cinelli -- pronunciation
References: <200103170219.f2H2J9m24824@winery.garlic.com>


siverson@garlic.com wrote:
>
> I have a bike from his workshop, but I'm confused about the correct
> pronunciation:
>
> Cinelli = Chin-el-ee or is it Sin-el-ee?
>
> Cino = Chee-no or is it See-no?

Ci is pronounced chee

So: chee-nel-lee (both L's are pronounced and accent on nel)

and chee-no (accent on chee)
>
> and last but not least. . .
>
> Ciocc -- How do you pronounce it? I've heard Choach (rhymes with coach)

The CR archives reveals:

Richard M. Sachs richardsachs@juno.com wrote on Sat, 7 Oct 2000:

ciocc means 'poker face'. it was a term of endearment used as a nickname for young giovanni pelliziolli. the above from my fogged memory of framebuilder minutiae. e-RICHIE (it's cold here; arm warmers today...)

in response to

"Takao Noda" <tanoda@d1.dion.ne.jp> writes: I heard the people of Bergamo( Bergamaschi) had a peculiar dialect , so Ciocc had the umlaut on o. Also heard it means an "alcoholic". Mr. Pelizzoli might posiibly be so.

Okay, so what does the name Ciocc mean.