For those who are not victims of Chuck's philosophy of what parts should be on a Teledyne, I would like to repeat what I wrote some time ago about the dealer whom I worked for in 1973 & '74, which was a Teledyne dealer. These frames came as frame & fork, and usually with a steel Shimano Dura Ace headset (if they came with a headset at all) There is no correct equipment list for one of these, and I personally know of one man who used a steel water bottle cage on his. You see, there weren't very many alloy cages back then, and the ones that were available weren't very strong. However, if there were any component group which was more commonly seen on these bikes, it would have been Shimano Dura Ace, as there was an amateur team in America which was sponsored by Teledyne and Shimano, and I personally saw more Teledynes equipped with Dura Ace equipment than any other choice. I don't mean to say that I am an expert on the subject, because I certainly didn't see all of the Teledynes produced, but then neither did most everyone else outside of the Manufacturer themselves.
I would like to make a plea for the sake of all who participate in this list. Please, when you provide information to other members on this list, just give us the facts, no more opinions please ! I think there are several persons on this list who usually provide good and accurate information, but far too many who provide headaches with their comments and opinions. I am preparing to delete 800 messages that I have been unable to keep up with the reading of. I will skim through the names and subjects for important stuff, but the rest of the B.S. goes.
Please keep the facts coming, and the B. S. going somewhere else.
"Bicycle Mark" Perkins Visalia/Fresno, CA
On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 18:29:40 -0800 Chuck Schmidt
<chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> writes:
> Jerry Moos wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like the five speed Winner on the Teledyne now is correct, but
an
> > Ultra-6 would be a bit too new. That is as I suspected, I don't
remember
> > using an Ultra-6 myself until about 1980. It appears the the
Blackburn cage
> > is a bit too new also. I could use a new but retro Ale chromed steel
cage
> > or perhaps use a handlebar mounted bottle cage. The bar mounted cage
would
> > aviod any further damage to the Teledyne decals from cage clamps as
Titans
> > did not have bottle cage brazeons. However, the bar mounted cage
will
> > obscure the cool engraving on the SR World Champion bars.
> > Decisions, decisions.
> Chuck wrote:
> >
> I think it is important (only if this is important, of course) to know
> that these bikes were _the_ cutting edge for a very short time in the
> mid-1970s and as such would have been outfitted with the cutting edge
> parts of the same period. They would not have a steel cage or a
> handlebar mounted cage. As Dave already mentioned, they would be
> outfitted with some pretty esoteric parts. A lot of the ones I saw in
> Southern California had a Huret Jubilee rear derailleur for instance
> (still the lightest rear derailleur). The other thing to remember is
> that Teledynes would have a _real_ mix of parts, but above all, they
> would be the lightest parts of the time (whether or not they were any
> good, of course). The only point of these bikes was weight after all.
>
> Joe Kossak had a great series of articles on components (light weight
> and otherwise) in Bike World in the mid-70s that you should read.
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, California
>
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