[CR]Re: JUY 52 "rip off"

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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:09:16 +0100
From: "Bob Reid" <bob.reid@btconnect.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <LPBBIKPCFJMAAHLIAKJMAELHCCAA.cyclartist@home.com>
Subject: [CR]Re: JUY 52 "rip off"

In polite response to Jim Cunninghams points ;

- I thought what was under discussion was a Juy-53 derailleur, not a 52 ? or 25 ? It's only a number I know, but the then again it's only a derailleur - a $1225 one at that.
> About 6 years ago I sold a complete Follis tandem that had a Juy 52
> derailleur on it. The bike had been poorly refinished and had a light
> patina on all the parts. After paying $1,000 for the bike, the client asked
> me to remove the front derailleur, and that is all he took.

- I feel nothing but sympathy for someone who was so clearly mistaken in their belief that they were buying a rare component.
>
> These derailleurs are rare, and used a unique braze-on fitting that routed
> both derailleur cables on the right side of the downtube.

- The Juy-53 was provided as band-on as shown with the one for sale but there was also an alternative "Fixation a braser" Braze-on and also a conversion kit for turning your existing Simplex standard lever into a twin right-hand lever and for also a clip on double pulley for "bare-wire" control. Neither of which was unique as it survived unchanged at least until the advent of the Juy-56
> I do not see
> any reason to take such a position as Bob's about this sale. It is certainly
> NOT "the record for the single greatest price ever bid for a component" as
> he says.

- Just what is the record then ? Oh and it's quite clear to me the reasons why you should take this position.
> Bob, I do not believe you are correct in your assertion about having a
> precise replica made for half the price. In fact, I challenge you to do so.
> If you succeed, I will buy 5 sets.
> As I personally do not consider these derailleurs rare nor agree that they are worth anything like $1225 I would politely suggest Jim, that if you need five sets and can easily sell each for $600 it would be well worth you exploring rather than me wasting my time on what was only an opinion.

Best Regards

Bob Reid
Stonehaven
Scotland