Re: [CR]Bike technology peaked in the 1984?

(Example: Framebuilders:Jack Taylor)

To: steve@fridayscomputer.com
Cc: afhost@veriomail.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:41:01 -0400
Subject: Re: [CR]Bike technology peaked in the 1984?
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>


my wheels are 28 hole tubulars with (out-of-production) campagnolo record strada, 22mm width, rims, and dt revolution spokes. radial front. this has been my personal wheel set-up since the early nineties. my wheels are lighter than campagnolo nucleons. that's light, (modern), enough. e-RICHIE

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:53:08 -0400 Steve Freides <steve@fridayscomputer.com> writes:
> I have several sets of GEL280's and they all come in about 295 grams.
>
> I suggest Richard put those new and old wheelsets on the scale - I
> suspect
> the difference will be relatively large.
>
> -S-
>
>
>
> "Capt. Crunch" wrote:
> >
> > A couple of points:
> >
> > IIRC correctly the GEL280 weighs 280 w/o the ferrules. True rim
> weight is
> > closer to 300. Can anyone confirm this?
> >
> > I would suspect that the freewheel/hub combination weighs more
> than the
> > freehub/cog combo. Therefore the older set of wheels probably has
> lighter
> > rims and heavier hubs. The new wheels are the opposite.
> >
> > Total weight of a wheelset is not most important performance
> factor.
> > Reducing the weight of the wheel/tire gains the most performance.
> Many
> > modern boutique wheels give the illusion of light (performance)
> weight by
> > reducing the weight of the hubs.
> >
> > Andy Hosterman
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Rose" <rrose@NormandAssociates.com>
> > To: "'Bicycle Classics inc'" <bikevint@tiac.net>; "'Moos, Jerry'"
> > <jmoos@urc.com>; "'walter skrzypek'" <wspokes1@hotmail.com>;
> > <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 11:46 AM
> > Subject: RE: [CR]Bike technology peaked in the 1984?
> >
> > > This wheel weight thing has me puzzled. My early '80's DeRosa
> has Gel
> > 280's
> > > (tubulars), laced to Ofmega low flange hubs, 32h. (7 speed). My
> "modern"
> > > Richard Sachs rides on Mavic Reflex tubulars, 32h Record
> 9-speed. (1'ST
> > > generation - they are lighter now). I admit to not having put
> these
> > > wheelsets on a scale, but the new ones feel as light or lighter,
> and have
> > > proven indestructable especially compared to the Gel 280's.
> > > BTW, everything about the newer bike is better than the older
> bike. But,
> > the
> > > DeRosa is very pretty. Just not as pretty as the Sachs!
> > > Richard Rose (Toledo, Ohio)
> >
> > _______________________________________________


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> Steve Freides