Re: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?

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From: "renaissance-cycles" <info@renaissance-cycles.com>
To: "Marc Boral" <mbikealive@earthlink.net>, "Diane Feldman" <feldmanbike@home.com>
Cc: "Moos, Jerry" <jmoos@urc.com>, "'Lee Berg'" <lberg@ventoux.com>, <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <ABC4A5183996D411BF92000629EEABAD3662D7@mail-server.urc.com> <011d01c0e936$20933d00$1c29b018@vncvr1.wa.home.com> <3B153E2D.983808F5@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 23:01:34 +0200


Now! It is Miche who is providing material for the lower end Mirage and Veloce, Cassettes/hubs/cranks/bbs. This was passed on to me just reccently by several others who buys Campy in bulk form for their in house brands of bikes. As to where some of the Miche stuff in produced, no idea!

Since Campy subbed out all of their steel hardware. It would be nice to know who they were? Always looking for small parts!

BC......Baron Corpuz....Holland!


----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Boral
To: Diane Feldman
Cc: Moos, Jerry


<Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?


> I was told by a Campy employee that some of the lower end forgings (especially
> hubs) were subbed out to Ofmega. Campy has ALWAYS subbed out their steel
> hardware for all components.
>
> Marc Boral
>
> Diane Feldman wrote:
>
> > The offered group appears to be the first-generation (@1988) Athena group.
> > Newer cheap Campy hubs from Taiwan? I've overhauled a bunch of them and
> > wouldn't doubt it. The Mirage and Veloce front hubs are about Joytech
> > quality and the cones look like Joytech.
> > David Feldman
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Moos, Jerry" <jmoos@urc.com>
> > To: "'Lee Berg'" <lberg@ventoux.com>; "Aldo Ross" <swampmtn@siscom.net>
> > Cc: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:10 AM
> > Subject: RE: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?
> >
> > > I'm not very up on my C-Record and later Campy, but I agree that the
> > brakes
> > > and also pedals look like Victory or Triomphe. The derailleurs and cranks
> > > could be late Victory or Triomphe or maybe early Chorus or Athena. So I'm
> > > not sure this is even a complete gruppo of the same model, and even if it
> > > is, none of the parts appear to be Record. Of course he said "upper end"
> > > not "top end", but that kind of clever wording makes me suspicious.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jerry Moos
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lee Berg [mailto:lberg@ventoux.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:51 PM
> > > To: Aldo Ross
> > > Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > > Subject: Re: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?
> > >
> > >
> > > The cranks look to be newer (appear to be low end and have the
> > > mid-/late-'90s logo and chain pickup pins on the large chainring; the
> > > photo is none too clear) than the (Triomphe?, Victory? cheapo QR) brake
> > > calipers . Doesn't look like "upper end" or a real "groupset" to me.
> > >
> > > Lee Berg
> > > Palo Alto
> > >
> > >
> > > Aldo Ross wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Please read this ad on eBay:
> > > >
> > > > http://ebay.com/<blah>
> > > >
> > > > Since when has Campy made anything in Taiwan???
> > > >
> > > > Incredulously,
> > > >
> > > > Aldo Ross