Re: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?

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Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:11:52 -0700
To: "renaissance-cycles" <info@renaissance-cycles.com>
From: "Monkeyman" <monkey37@bluemarble.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?
Cc: "Marc Boral" <mbikealive@earthlink.net>, "Diane Feldman" <feldmanbike@home.com>, "Moos, Jerry" <jmoos@urc.com>, "'Lee Berg'" <lberg@ventoux.com>, <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>


This could explain some things sine Miche has historically been one of the Europeans that sent stuff to Asia. I knew Campy was having others make some of their stuff so this could explain how Campy can say they only source out to other "European" companies. Interesting. . . with furrowed brow, Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
>Now! It is Miche who is providing material for the lower end Mirage and
>Veloce,
>Cassettes/hubs/cranks/bbs. This was passed on to me just reccently by
>several others
>who buys Campy in bulk form for their in house brands of bikes. As to where
>some
>of the Miche stuff in produced, no idea!
>
>Since Campy subbed out all of their steel hardware. It would be nice to know
>who
>they were? Always looking for small parts!
>
>BC......Baron Corpuz....Holland!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Marc Boral <mbikealive@earthlink.net>
>To: Diane Feldman <feldmanbike@home.com>
>Cc: Moos, Jerry <jmoos@urc.com>; 'Lee Berg' <lberg@ventoux.com>;
><Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 8:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?
>
>
>> I was told by a Campy employee that some of the lower end forgings
>(especially
>> hubs) were subbed out to Ofmega. Campy has ALWAYS subbed out their steel
>> hardware for all components.
>>
>> Marc Boral
>>
>> Diane Feldman wrote:
>>
>> > The offered group appears to be the first-generation (@1988) Athena
>group.
>> > Newer cheap Campy hubs from Taiwan? I've overhauled a bunch of them and
>> > wouldn't doubt it. The Mirage and Veloce front hubs are about Joytech
>> > quality and the cones look like Joytech.
>> > David Feldman
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Moos, Jerry" <jmoos@urc.com>
>> > To: "'Lee Berg'" <lberg@ventoux.com>; "Aldo Ross" <swampmtn@siscom.net>
>> > Cc: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:10 AM
>> > Subject: RE: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?
>> >
>> > > I'm not very up on my C-Record and later Campy, but I agree that the
>> > brakes
>> > > and also pedals look like Victory or Triomphe. The derailleurs and
>cranks
>> > > could be late Victory or Triomphe or maybe early Chorus or Athena. So
>I'm
>> > > not sure this is even a complete gruppo of the same model, and even if
>it
>> > > is, none of the parts appear to be Record. Of course he said "upper
>end"
>> > > not "top end", but that kind of clever wording makes me suspicious.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Jerry Moos
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Lee Berg [mailto:lberg@ventoux.com]
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:51 PM
>> > > To: Aldo Ross
>> > > Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> > > Subject: Re: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > The cranks look to be newer (appear to be low end and have the
>> > > mid-/late-'90s logo and chain pickup pins on the large chainring; the
>> > > photo is none too clear) than the (Triomphe?, Victory? cheapo QR)
>brake
>> > > calipers . Doesn't look like "upper end" or a real "groupset" to me.
>> > >
>> > > Lee Berg
>> > > Palo Alto
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Aldo Ross wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Please read this ad on eBay:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://ebay.com/<blah>
>> > > >
>> > > > Since when has Campy made anything in Taiwan???
>> > > >
>> > > > Incredulously,
>> > > >
>> > > > Aldo Ross
>> > >
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