At the Anaheim show a few years ago, I was talking to someone at Bruce Gordon's booth. I have a lugged Gordon and asked about the price of a lugged frame. Gordon wanted $3200 for a lugged frams (acording to this guy) because he had burned out his lungs not wearing a mask, and if he had to strap one on to do a brazed frame, he wanted a lot of money,
Ken Wallace in sunny Phoenix (Oh, wait, that's redundant)