I have just stumbled on to the list, and am looking forward to some good information. I started cycling in the late fifties in England. My first real lighweight bike was a "FH Grubb" at that time it was customary to build your own even in the mid price range. It had Harden hubs with Weinmann rims, GB brakes and handlebars, Williams chainset, and Simplex gear changers. By today's standards it is not of great note, but then even frames in this price range had Nervex Professional lugs and all kinds of good features. I progressed to a "curly" Hetchins, Viking "Severn Valley", and then several Holdsworths. Where are they now? Today, I ride a Schwinn Paramount with Campy Chorus group. If this strikes any chords let me know. I shall look forward to the list Tony Taylor