Re: [CR]Report from Orlando Now Reliability

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From: "Diane Feldman" <feldmanbike@home.com>
To: "Jerry & Liz Moos" <moos@penn.com>, "Joseph Bender-Zanoni" <jfbender@umich.edu>
Cc: "stephen a. solombrino" <up4479@hotmail.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <3.0.5.32.20010701135617.0172abc0@j.imap.itd.umich.edu> <3B3F8424.82F08666@penn.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Report from Orlando Now Reliability
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 14:57:19 -0700


From observing scores of other peoples' bikes as I work on them, Jerry's observation of more rapid cassette cog wear is accurate--it seems reasonable to think of ramped cogs as "pre worn." Plus, STI and Ergopower shifting on large numbers of skinny cogs are sensitive systems and seem to have less tolerance for any wear before it shows up as slower and less accurate shifting. The ultimate is the latest Mavic robo-derailleur which of course allows no adjustment in rider input--the solenoids can't tell the derailleur the equivalent of what a human hand can in pushing the STI lever over for a millisecond longer to nurse a worn chain through a shift. Mektronic is pretty worthless unless everything with links and teeth is squeaky clean and
unworn.
David Feldman


----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry & Liz Moos
To: Joseph Bender-Zanoni
Cc: "stephen a. solombrino"


<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Report from Orlando Now Reliability


> If by reliable, you mean not breaking unexpectedly, I might agree, but cassettes
> seem to wear out a lot faster than the old freewheels, and thin walled aluminum
> frames are treated by many as disposable items to be discarded after three years
> or so. My own definition of reliability includes durability. I hope the TV
> pictures of the Mexican rider Julio Perez in this year's Giro being denied what
> looked to be his first stage victory in a major tour when his chain broke a few
> km from the finish will suggest to some in the industry that the constant
> increase in the number of rear cogs has gone too far.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
>
> Joseph Bender-Zanoni wrote:
>
> > I really don't think the new equipment is any less reliable with the
> > exception of chains. What may have declined is people's ability to maintain
> > their own machines or know when something is not right. On the other hand I
> > never saw broken chains on the side of the road until the 9 speed era.
> > Chains and cogs have been pushed to the limit but that is what people want.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > At 05:29 PM 7/1/01, stephen a. solombrino wrote:
> > >
> > > When people give me a hard time about my old stuff, I tell them I never
> > >had the need to upgrade in the last 30 years. The funny thing is most of
> > >these guys get to look at my stuff as I stop by the side of the road to see
> > >if they need help. The new stuff seems to break down if my count of
> > >stranded road riders is correct. Steve (still wondering if this stuff wears
> > >out) Solombrino
> > >
> > >>From: LouDeeter@aol.com
> > >>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > >>Subject: [CR]Report from Orlando
> > >>Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 12:22:20 EDT
> > >>
> > >>Having finally settled in, I ventured out yesterday to ride with the 'big
> > >>boys'. There is a group of about 100 riders who gather on Sat & Sun
> > >>mornings, mostly local racers & triathletes. I think I was the only over
> > >>50
> > >>person there. I showed up on my red Masi Prestige. Got lots of gawkers,
> > >>but
> > >>the best line was, with about 20 people around, one of the guys says, "wow,
> > >>Campy Record parts! When you going to upgrade that frame, man?" I think
> > >>that said it all. Looking around, I didn't see a single confirmed steel
> > >>frame there, unless a Bianchi Giro is steel--it was the closest thing to
> > >>steel that I saw. So, today I went back with my lugged Spectrum steel
> > >>bike.
> > >> Again, lots of gawkers--almost like going to a racing event in an antique
> > >>car. Geez... I'm getting old. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL.