Re: [CR]Re: Zeus-2000 Timeline & Prices

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From: "walter skrzypek" <wspokes1@hotmail.com>
To: bstockwell@hotmail.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Zeus-2000 Timeline & Prices
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 20:05:59 -0400


Yeah, it seems you covered all the zeus items and prices, but where's the supercronos Box like the unique one on EBAY

http://ebay.com/<blah>

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------------------------------------------ Walt "blatant plug, and zues fan" Skrzypek Falls Creek, PA

&gt;From: "bradford stockwell"

&gt;To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

&gt;Subject: [CR]Re: Zeus-2000 Timeline &amp; Prices

&gt;Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 22:36:44 +0000

&gt;

&gt;CR FOLK:

&gt;

&gt;Last week someone asked about the introduction of Zeus-2000

&gt;components and

&gt;their price relative to Campy Super Record. Shown below is what I

&gt;can

&gt;cobble together. If you're bored already, hit your delete button

&gt;...now!

&gt;

&gt; Brad ‘Zeus fan’ Stockwell

&gt; Palo Alto

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;THE SHORT VERSION

&gt;

&gt; I estimate that the full Zeus-2000 gruppo materialized in roughly

&gt;1975.

&gt;The data I have from 78/79 shows a gruppo price comparison of

&gt;$672.65 for

&gt;Zeus-2000 and $674.91 for the titanium Super Record ensemble.

&gt;

&gt;BACKGROUND

&gt;

&gt; I have a Zeus ‘premium’ component poster from 1974 which shows

&gt;that at

&gt;that time there were only three 2000-series components (freewheel,

&gt;rear

&gt;derailleur, and brakes). By 1976 a series of ads in BICYCLING!

&gt;showed a

&gt;full line of components one-by-one. Luis Ocana rode a Zeus Superser

&gt;in the

&gt;1975 tour, but the picture I have (in which he leads Merckx and

&gt;Thevenet up

&gt;a mountain) doesn’t show the drive-train so I can’t be sure whether

&gt;Ocana

&gt;pedaled the alps with those flexy chainrings or not! As to the end

&gt;of the

&gt;2000 series, it was still shown in an ’82 catalog but by ’85 it had

&gt;been

&gt;replaced by the less interesting ‘Supercronos’ group.

&gt;

&gt;PART-BY-PART PRICE DATA

&gt; The Zeus prices are from a 1979 suggested retail price list; the

&gt;Campy

&gt;prices are from the ’78 Bikecology catalog – so it isn’t a totally

&gt;fair

&gt;comparison, but it’s what I’ve got. Prices in $US are

&gt;Zeus-2000/Campy-SR-ti, except where noted.

&gt;

&gt;Derailleurs&amp;levers: 79.90/85.00

&gt;Crank&amp;BB: 179.90/208.95

&gt;Pedals: 97.75/104.88

&gt;Seatpost: 24.56/35.00

&gt;Saddle: 16.95/27.44(cinelli model 3)

&gt;Headset: 30.90/36.88

&gt;Sidepull Brakes: 66.50/109.88

&gt;Hubs: 107.75/51.88(NR small flange)

&gt;6-sp Freewheel: 68.00/15.00 (Regina Oro)

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;THE LONG TEDIOUS VERSION: A ZEUS-2000 TIMELINE

&gt;

&gt;FREEWHEEL: introduced in 1972; Ocana possibly used one on his

&gt;Motobecane in

&gt;the 73 Tour. For the 5-speed version, 4 cogs of ‘super earlumin II’

&gt;slide

&gt;onto a splined steel body; the 5th cog is a threaded steel cog.

&gt;The 103

&gt;catalog of 1977 shows a 6-speed version where the 5th cog is

&gt;replaced by a

&gt;‘duplex’ 5th &amp; 6th cog. The 104 catalog of 1980 shows the addition

&gt;of a

&gt;compact 7-speed, which replaces the 4 earlumin cogs with 5 thinner

&gt;ones.

&gt;

&gt;REAR DERAILLEUR: circa 1974: version 1 has an all-steel body, a

&gt;drilled

&gt;aluminum cage, and titanium bolts. Parallelogram plates are

&gt;perforated

&gt;Criterium parts: the front plate has a slot which eliminates the

&gt;word

&gt;‘Criterium’; the rear plate has 4 holes. This item also differs

&gt;from the

&gt;earlier Criterium model due to the addition of a ~5mm spacer disk

&gt;between

&gt;the pivot-bolt housing and the pulley cage. Bolt housings are

&gt;chrome;

&gt;parallelogram plates have a frosted (sand-blasted? etched?)

&gt;appearance.

&gt; A 1976 ad shows version 2 which has a different outer

&gt;parallelogram

&gt;plate: now it says ‘Zeus 2000’ and has two triangular perforations.

&gt;The

&gt;bolt housings are black.

&gt; The 103 catalog of 1977 shows version 3 with aluminum

&gt;parallelogram

&gt;plates; the outer plate now has a ‘Z’ design which has ‘Zeus 2000’

&gt;written

&gt;within it. The fixing bolt is still titanium, but in the 6 examples

&gt;I’ve

&gt;seen the pivot bolt is steel. The ~5mm spacer between the

&gt;pivot-bolt

&gt;housing and the pulley cage has been replaced by a ~15mm cylindrical

&gt;chrome/steel spacer.

&gt; The Supercronos derailleur is smooth with no drillings or

&gt;embossings; the

&gt;word ‘Supercronos’ is painted on the parallelogram.

&gt;

&gt;FRONT DERAILLEUR: the 103 catalog of 1977 shows version 1, which is

&gt;a

&gt;Criterium front with the steel parallelogram arm painted black .

&gt;The cage

&gt;is flat and has the Zeus-in-an-oval logo.

&gt; The 104 catalog of 1980 shows version 2: a more streamlined design

&gt;with

&gt;aluminum arms. The outer cage-plate has a raised section with 2

&gt;slots, and

&gt;a Z-in-a-circle logo.

&gt; The version 2 derailleur was used in the Supercronos group.

&gt;

&gt;SHIFT LEVERS: the 103 catalog of 1977 shows version 1: Criterium

&gt;levers with

&gt;black bolts. The levers have a tilted-Z logo and bumps at the edge.

&gt; The

&gt;104 catalog of 1980 shows version 2: slab-ular levers with 6

&gt;hashmarks and a

&gt;Z-in-a-circle logo. Also shown is the 2001 control lever, which is

&gt;the

&gt;braze-on version.

&gt;

&gt;CRANK: In 1974 the Criterium crank was the top model. The 102

&gt;catalog of

&gt;1974 contains a prophetic picture of a modified Criterium crank with

&gt;arms

&gt;and rings mercilessly riddled with holes.

&gt; A 1976 ad shows version 1 of the 2000 crankset: it is a Criterium

&gt;crank

&gt;with 3 equal-length slots milled in each arm, numerous

&gt;small/closely-spaced

&gt;holes in the chainrings, with a titanium bb axle, cups, and crankarm

&gt;bolts.

&gt;The pedal holes are countersinked for thin steel pedal washers. The

&gt;arms

&gt;have the Zeus-in-an-oval logo.

&gt; The 103 catalog of 1977 shows version 2, which differs by having

&gt;the

&gt;crankarm slots taper in size, shortest one at the pedal end.

&gt; A Zeus bicycle poster of 1977 shows version 3, which differs in

&gt;that the

&gt;tapered crankarm slots no longer go all the way through the arms.

&gt; A Zeus component poster of 1978 shows version 4, which differs by

&gt;having

&gt;beefier chainrings. They are made from thicker stock and have more

&gt;substantial webs.

&gt; The 104 catalog of 1980 shows version 5, which differs in that the

&gt;arms

&gt;are wider and less deep. The arms have a Z-in-a-circle logo. Also,

&gt;the

&gt;bottom bracket parts are now steel (described as ‘titanox’ in the

&gt;catalog).

&gt; The Supercronos crank is a ‘low-profile’ arm design which uses

&gt;version-5

&gt;rings.

&gt;

&gt;HUBS: The 103 catalog of 1977 shows Zeus-2000 hubs. The hub body

&gt;is a

&gt;streamlined hourglass shape (described as the ‘diablo’ shape in the

&gt;’81 Ron

&gt;Kitching catalog) and has a Zeus-in-an-oval logo. The axles and

&gt;quick-release end-caps are titanium. Each quick release lever has a

&gt;slot in

&gt;it.

&gt; At some point the titanium bits became ‘titanox’, and the

&gt;quick-releases

&gt;were redesigned without perforations.

&gt; The Supercronos hubs look similar to the 2000 hubs, but the word

&gt;‘Zeus’ is

&gt;just painted-on and the skewers no longer have a D-ring on the

&gt;adjustable

&gt;end.

&gt;

&gt;PEDALS: A 1976 ad shows version 1 of the 2000 pedals: they are

&gt;shaped like

&gt;criterium pedals but have titanium cages and spindles.

&gt; The 103 catalog of 1977 shows version 2, where the pedal body has

&gt;a

&gt;streamlined shape similar to the hubs. These pedals have sealed

&gt;bearings.

&gt;They come with toe-clip bolts which are painted black.

&gt; The Supercronos pedals switched to an aero-platform design.

&gt;

&gt;BRAKES: A 1974 component poster shows the Zeus-2000 centerpull

&gt;brakes,

&gt;which have recessed allen fittings and brake shoes that are ‘curved

&gt;to

&gt;follow the rim’ with integral wire tire-guides. The brake levers

&gt;have a

&gt;quick release mechanism and cable adjuster barrels with O-rings.

&gt;The brake

&gt;hoods are black rubber. The brake levers are drilled and at the

&gt;upper end

&gt;there is a recessed rectangle with the word ‘Zeus’.

&gt; An ad in BICYCLING! May ’77 shows the 2001 sidepull brakes, which

&gt;have a

&gt;cammed quick-release on the upper cable arm and pointy conical

&gt;bolts. The

&gt;arms are engraved “Zeus 2001” and “Spain”. They are normal-reach

&gt;brakes.

&gt;The brake levers have O-rings like the 2000 version but no quick

&gt;release.

&gt;The hoods are a translucent natural gum.

&gt; In a review of Zeus components in BICYCLING! June ’80, Richard Jow

&gt;mentions that the brake lever adjusters have been redesigned to omit

&gt;the

&gt;O-ring.

&gt; At some point after 1980, the rectangle with the word ‘Zeus’ on

&gt;the brake

&gt;levers changes to an hourglass shape.

&gt; After ’83 or so, the lever hoods change to a less-soft material

&gt;with a

&gt;smaller opening for the lever.

&gt; The Supercronos brakes are similar to the 2000 sidepulls, but they

&gt;are

&gt;short-reach and the words ‘Zeus’ and ‘Spain’ are painted on. The

&gt;levers

&gt;have a Z-in-a-circle painted on ‘em.

&gt;

&gt;SADDLE: the 103 catalog of 1977 shows the Zeus-2000 saddle which is

&gt;plastic

&gt;with a padded leather cover. The saddle was made by the Spanish

&gt;company

&gt;Arius, and their logo appears on the underside. The sides of the

&gt;saddle are

&gt;stamped with a white oval containing the words “exclusive Zeus 2000

&gt;model”.

&gt;

&gt;SEATPOST: there was never a Zeus-2000 seatpost; Criterium was always

&gt;the top

&gt;model. Version 1 of the early 70’s is a 2-bolt post with 8 shallow

&gt;flutes

&gt;and a Zeus-world logo. Version 2 has a Zeus-in-an-oval logo.

&gt;Version 3

&gt;adds a minimum insertion line. The cradles are all steel.

&gt; The 103 catalog of 1977 shows version 4 which is a 1-bolt post

&gt;with 22

&gt;narrow ‘saw-cut’ flutes. The saddle-rail clamp bolt bears on a

&gt;toothed

&gt;piece of steel that bites into the aluminum clamp base to maintain

&gt;the

&gt;saddle tilt. Version 5 is the same but now there are two toothed

&gt;steel

&gt;pieces that key into each other to set the saddle tilt; this avoids

&gt;chewing

&gt;up the aluminum. All these posts have the Zeus-in-an-oval logo.

&gt;

&gt;HEADSET: In 1974 the only Zeus headset was the all-steel Gran Sport.

&gt; As

&gt;late as 1977 all the top models of Zeus bicycles were sold with this

&gt;headset. The cups are smooth globular chromed steel.

&gt; The 103 catalog of 1977 shows a Criterium model and a 2000 model.

&gt;These

&gt;headsets shun the smooth look of the Gran Sport, and incorporate a

&gt;bevelled

&gt;look. The Criterium is steel with the new shape; the 2000 has alloy

&gt;outer

&gt;cups with pressed-in steel races.

&gt; Sometime after ’82 the 2000 headset was redesigned with a more

&gt;‘bulbous’

&gt;appearance.

&gt;

&gt;FORK CROWN: version 1 is shown in a 1974 component poster. It is a

&gt;semi-sloping crown which is smooth on the tops but has ‘Zeus 2000’

&gt;molded

&gt;into the shoulders. It is drilled to accept recessed allen

&gt;fittings. This

&gt;version is also shown in the 103 catalog of 1977.

&gt; The 104 catalog of 1980 shows a second version, which has a

&gt;Z-in-a-circle

&gt;molded into the tops.

&gt;

&gt;DROPOUTS: These are shown in a 1974 component poster. Post-77

&gt;versions

&gt;have adjuster screws with springs; the ’74 version has plastic

&gt;spacers which

&gt;slide in grooves within the axle slot.

&gt; The 2001 vertical dropouts are shown in the 104 catalog of 1980.

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

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