Re: [CR]50 years from now...

(Example: Framebuilders:Cecil Behringer)

From: "Donald Dundee" <rebour@hotmail.com>
To: peterg@ixpres.com, M4Campy@aol.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]50 years from now...
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 11:56:36 -0500


I hope you are not serious. Do you know how many great frame builders there are in Europe?


>From: PeterGrenader <peterg@ixpres.com>
>To: M4Campy@aol.com
>CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR]50 years from now...
>Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 04:42:50 -0700
>
>I certainly hope the fine products from these American builders will be
>considered classics - let's be honest - there is very little in as far
>as quality that the euro's have over our frame builders. Add to the
>list Columbine, Holland, Confente (kinda American), Davidson, Waterford,
>etc... the list goes on.
>
>M4Campy@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Hi all-
> >
> > I've been wondering about this for awhile and since we
> > just entered a new millennia I thought it would be in-
> > teresting discussion...
> >
> > I'm curious as to what everyone thinks will be vintage
> > or considered vintage/collectable 50 years from now.
> >
> > In particular, out of the current crop of active frame
> > builders -- especially the American's.
> >
> > Will Baylis, Eisentraut, Sachs, or Brown (limited pro-
> > duction) be as sought after as a Masi or Cinelli is in
> > todays world??? Maybe the Schwinn Fastback is what the
> > old guys of the future will be lusting for since it is
> > remembered as their first real racer...
> >
> > I guess the deeper question is what makes something or
> > in this case a bike collectable?
> >
> > Sentimentality plays a role... Folklore or legend? The
> > quality vs. quantity? One builder one frame? Artisian?
> > The first bike I rode where I wasn't spit out the back
> > of the fast local group ride;) Or, it was rode to Tour
> > victory even though the decals said differently!
> >
> > Or, are these times gone forever and a classic will be
> > just as prized in the future as now. In the age of big
> > production it seems like a lot of the mystique is gone
> > and all we are left with is CADD!
> >
> > I just can't see a bunch of guys reminiscing about the
> > Trek OCLV that they shouldn't have sold...
> >
> > Mike Wilkinson