Thanks gang. The Alan built Guerciotti frameset that I saw earlier this week, is most likely one of the upper models that have been mentioned. Having only looked at it for a short time, I don't remember much about the extra details, but It does have a "G" logo (I believe a "G" within a star?) engraved into the fork-crown tops, and I think there was something extra on the "lugs". I'm also quite certain that it has never been ridden. I was told that it was a complete bike, but was stripped for it's components. I am assuming that the headset & BB are still there because they have Italian threads, and whatever bike the components went onto didn't have Italian threads.
I will be going back in a few days, probably with the cash to bring it home. When I do, I will have all of your comments, fresh in my mind, to help me get a better idea of what I'm looking at. I need another bike like a hole in the head, but it sounds like enough of a good deal that I could always sell it if it turns out that I don't like the ride. And there was at least one group member who expressed some interrest in this frameset, so when I know more, I will let you know more too.
"Bicycle Mark" Perkins Visalia, CA
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:57:51 -0500 Robert_S_Benson@d-fd.com writes:
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> The original Alan was a model called Olympic, with the
> bolt on seat stays and 1.5 mm thick tubing. I had a gold
> anodized one and it was a fairly whippy riding bike. Apparently,
> Alan figured this out. They came out with the Competition model
> with 2 mm thick tubing, beefier looking fork blades with less rake.
> I had a silver one of these, and it was much improved. Soon after
> came the Super Record with the same 2mm tubing and geometry
> as the competition, but nicer insertion seat stay tops, arrow shaped
> cutouts in the lugs, and fittings. Not sure when the cyclocross
> models came along; I think right after or the same time as Super
> Record
>
> Steve Benson
> Charlotte, NC
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> In a message dated 1/18/01 1:15:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> bicyclemark@juno.com writes:
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> << ALAN style, red anodized w/white panels & yellow lettering,
> GUERCIOTTI, 23" (58cm? - c to c), frame, fork, Campy bottom-bracket
set,
> & I think a Campy headset. >>
>
> There were two models imported by Ten Speed Drive in the 1980s...
>
> There was a cheaper model recognizable by a more mechanical, cobby seat
> stay attachment, and slightly smaller tube diameters (I think)
> and a fancier model (= to the Alan "Record") with a smoother looking
seat
> stay attachment. The inexpensive version was only in anodized red or
flat
> black (I am pretty sure) and the top end version came in Red or Blue
ano.
>
> There were also stable mate bikes called "Tommaso," with labeled
Alan-made
> frames (named after Tom Eason, the owner of Ten Speed Drive
> Imports.)
>
> Here in the Southeast USA there were many of these, I sold a bunch at
> CDO...there were many complete bikes sold with Campy Victory and such
> groups....and they haven't fetched very much, $-wise, as used bikes.
Without
> wanting to start yet another thread on aluminum frame durability
(Please, no!)
> I observed through dealing with many examples that these particular
bikes
> seem to last rather well perhaps because they are "glued & screwed"
> together and are made with fairly beefy gauge tubing.
>
> Dale Brown