Re: [CR]. Re: Hey is this a Rally or a NR?

(Example: Bike Shops:R.E.W. Reynolds)

From: <TW406@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:50:47 EST
Subject: Re: [CR]. Re: Hey is this a Rally or a NR?
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


Ok, here are my problems with this story.

First, the story was this was from a rare series of early 70s pre-Rallys, observed NOS in a printed red box labeled Nuovo Record GT.

The only sample yet (portrayed on ebay) seems (in numerous opinions) to be built from unrelated parts of various designs and vintages. The fact that it came used and crusty from a complete bicycle is meaningless in my opinion.

I could believe that there could be early Rallys built on a NR body or with a NR face plate. But why would they integrate later parts at this earlier date? And I'd bet it was sold in a Rally box, or if preRally a NR box imprinted in some way to signify. (But I doubt the second).

I could believe that Rallys were built in the 80s using up a mix of NR, NGS and Rally parts, which were close to obsolete. But these would have been sold as Rallys. Though I can't believe there was a stock of undated NR bodies in the 80s to build these on.

I really can't believe these things happened in both the early 70s and the early/mid 80s as described by different members on the list.

I can't believe there was a rare, printed, 1 know in existance red box labeled Nuovo Record GT. Boy, I'd love to see a picture of that.

I do believe this derailler is assembled from a Rally cage and a NR body, I've had a couple myself over the years, taken used and crusty from bikes by the way. I'm sure many exist. I've made one once too.

Until there is more evidence I don't believe this is a legitimate Campagnolo product from the information presented so far. I've been around this stuff over 35 years and I haven't seen everything, but I've seen an awful lot. But not this.

Ted Williams
Devil's Advocate, Oakland
But interesting none the less.