Re: [CR]the next thread Ole Eddy

(Example: Framebuilders:Alex Singer)

To: CYCLESTORE@aol.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, tech@worrall.co.nz
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:02:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]the next thread Ole Eddy
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>


<<<Brian Bayliss or Jim Cunningham who both worked at Masi in America must have some rumor or real facts on this Masi Coppi connection and some sources-documentation to back this up if available.>>>

too much to cut and paste. and i re-read the post below and still don't know which post is attributed to what guy! but i know what i saw and what i saw was this: 3 years ago in the "made-in-italy" insert in the velonews mag, there was a advertorial on alberto masi and he was shown with a frame template fixture ..."once used to build frames for coppi". does this pass as evidence? e-RICHIE my coppi came from xerox

On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 18:29:27 EST CYCLESTORE@aol.com writes:
> Hello again,
>
> In a message dated 11/6/01 10:22:08 PM, tech@worrall.co.nz writes:
>
> << CYCLESTORE@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Hi gang,
> >
> > On the Peugeot Masi's. These bikes would have been pointless to
> construct as
> > I have been told that Peugeot had a race shop to build team and
> custom bikes
> > to order for many years.
>
> The same could be said about Bianchi, yet Coppi had some frames
> built by Masi
> when
> he rode for Bianchi.
> DB
> >>
>
> I didn't say it couldn't have happened. Rumors even suggest that
> Masi's were
> built by Mario Confente. Rumors abound but did Masi actually build
> bikes for
> Coppi? How often though, was he his primary builder and did he ever
> work for
> Bianchi and who is Masi? Alberto, Falerino and some long lost Masi
> namesake
> cousin. While I would not dispute this I have missed out on any
> documentation
> that might support this over the last 30 years or so.
>
> The last time I spoke to Coppi shortly before his death in 1960 he
> said to
> me, "Bambino, I likea ta ride datta Masi tricyclette lika you but
> I'ma under
> da contrata witha olde Edwardo Bianchi don's cha know; si." I was
> three years
> old then and I don't remember what bike he really rode.
>
> Brian Bayliss or Jim Cunningham who both worked at Masi in America
> must have
> some rumor or real facts on this Masi Coppi connection and some
> sources-documentation to back this up if available.
>
> Sorry to sound so skeptical but I've been in the bike business for
> almost
> three full decades and I have not seen it all but I have seen
> similar
> unsupported claims (not that this is unsupported) on every rider,
> team and
> bike factory and small builder and I hate to see misinformation like
> this
> spread. Lots of locker room talk at bike school turns out to started
> by
> importers trying to increase the cache attached to their products or
> even
> users(riders) trying to build up the reputation of their personal
> ride. You
> can pay a lot for a name in this game.
>
> Today I have been told Lance Armstrong only rides Litespeeds painted
> like
> Trek's. While he certainly my own or ride a Litespeed and use it in
> some
> competitions unless Litespeed has secretly started making Carbon
> Fiber bikes
> then paints them like Trek's, this is a falsehood. Lance Armstrong
> owns and
> rides many brands of bikes from what I have seen, these are facts.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gilbert Anderson" A person who because of the smooth detached ride
> similar to
> gliding through the country side from your sofa; will like Brian
> Bayliss,
> only drive the well engineered Cadillac Esqilade, the biggest SUV on
> the
> planet, also driven exclusively by Eddy Merckx, Francisco Moser,
> Raymond
> Polidor and built by Cadillac in America, not the Ferrari factory in
> Mexico."
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/6/01 10:22:08 PM, tech@worrall.co.nz writes:
>
> << CYCLESTORE@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Hi gang,
> >
> > On the Peugeot Masi's. These bikes would have been pointless to
> construct as
> > I have been told that Peugeot had a race shop to build team and
> custom bikes
> > to order for many years.
>
> The same could be said about Bianchi, yet Coppi had some frames
> built by Masi
> when
> he rode for Bianchi.
> DB
> >>