Re: [CR] What Everyone Rides - was: More Bicycling Bashing

(Example: Framebuilders:Masi)

From: Jerry & Liz Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: <DTSHIFTER@aol.com>, <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>, <rabbitman@mindspring.com>
Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR] What Everyone Rides - was: More Bicycling Bashing
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:44:28 -0600


The autoshifting of early Vitus frames was not only due to light weight, but also atrocious alignment on some early Vitus frames. I had a Motobecane-badged Vitus that I had to return due to bad alignment. ALAN aluminum frames were much better.

Regards,

Jerry Moos


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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [CR] What Everyone Rides - was: More Bicycling Bashing



> Tom & All,
>
> I remember in 1986, I wanted an aluminum bike and would have loved to buy a
> Klein, but you are so correct! The Kleins were mega bucks more expensive
> than "C-Dales." I was fortunate to be living in South Carolina at the time
> and would drive up to Wilmington NC to visit 4 Wheeler Dealer, where Trek,
> Cannondale, Vitus and I forget what else (no Kleins however) was sold. I
> would spend hours on test rides, hating the ride of Cannondales, the most
> brutal ride I can remember (I have not ridden CAAD 4's & 5's & 6's!!). The
> Treks were much less so, but lacked feel. I settled on a Vitus, and while it
> was fine on the flat lands of Coastal Carolina, when I returned to the
> mountains of the Northeast, some good old fashioned climbing out of the
> saddle produced "auto shifts!!" Of course, the knowledgeable staff @ 4WD,
> warned that I was a bit heavy @170# for the Vitus!!
>
> Up in this part of the country (upstate NY) I see more Cannondales, Treks and
> Serottas than anything else............
>
> Your comment about bicycle weight (frame weight really) reminds me of what
> Keith Bontrager used to say: "most of the weight people need to lose is not
> in the frame!!"
>
> Also, Grant Petersen's analysis of total weight vs. frame weight differences
> is enlightening as well, where the difference in a frame weighing 2.7# & one
> at 5.0# may be 50-54%, adding all the equipment and a 180# rider brings the
> total weight difference to something like 2-4%.
>
> Time to go wheel out a 30 yr old "boat anchor!!!"

>

> Cheers,

>

> Chuck Brooks

> Malta, NY