As far as a standing vintage ride goes I would like to second the motion . I believe most of us have a commute or beater bike we would not mind getting wet this winter or even one of those , knobby tired ,low geared unmentionables to ride on wet roads.IM not advocating riding in the rain , but a wet road is ok with me . So come on out . Jim , fed up with at&t , McCoin Fremont Ca.