I think the art and engineering of bicycles IS what we admire most, or at least high on the list, so I welcome Bob stimulating a discussion of that. Some bikes, like curly stay Hetchins, are high art, while others like my recently acquired Teledyne and my long owned ALANs are fascinating exercises in innovative engineering. Maybe the engineering is "light" compared to a fighter plane or a formula one cars, but in some respects it is more challenging, as you only have the power of one human as an engine, not the 1000 hp of a formula one engine, and you can't design something that cost tens of millions of dollars like a fighter plane.
Regards,
Jerry Moos
walter skrzypek wrote:
> Can we nip this before it gets out of control.
>
> *snip*
> I'm saddened to see that yet again we are descending into the depths of the
> >"framebuilding is art rather than just light engineering" discussion group
> >?
> *snip*
>
> Notice he mentions that the postings appear to be going in the direction of
> a "framebuilding is art rather than just light engineering" discussion...HE
> DOES NOT state this as his opinion but rather it is the tragic path these
> posts are starting to follow. Please let us return to the classic posts and
> let this die out. OR email offlist. Yes, once again, I can indeed use delete
> but when I get through using delete as others have said, I am not getting a
> whole lot of other posts remaining. let us refocus back to what we all
> admire most and cycling.
>
> Walt Skrzypek
> Falls Creek, Pa
> "believing the confente/medici/masi/... is beginning to look like the 2000
> gore/bush election"
>
> >From: "Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com>
> >To: Bob Reid <bob.reid@btconnect.com>, Classic Rendezvous
> ><classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> >Subject: Re: [CR]Mario Confente (was inconsequential bollocks)
> >Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 06:22:56 -0800
> >
> >
> >Frame building is more than just light engineering.
> >It is more than just craftsmanship.
> >It is more than art.
> >
> >It is all three.
> >
> >The engineering comes in designing a bike that won't fall apart when
> >ridden.
> >The craft is taking the design and building it consistently well.
> >The art is in making it look beautiful rather than just functional.
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Steven L. Sheffield
> >stevens at veloworks dot com
> >veloworks at earthlink dot net
> >aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
> >double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Bob Reid <bob.reid@btconnect.com>
> >
> >
> >[snip]
> >
> >
> > > I'm saddened to see that yet again we are descending into the depths of
> >the
> > > "framebuilding is art rather than just light engineering" discussion
> >group ?