Re: [CR]Is it art or engineering?

(Example: Framebuilders:Tubing)

Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:34:16 -0500
From: Jerry Moos <moos@penn.com>
To: brucerobbins@worldmailer.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Is it art or engineering?
References: <20010308151340.15846.cpmta@c001.zsm.cp.net>


Then, what, pray tell, is a "true artist"? Only painters and sculpters? Must a statue be in marble the be art, or can it be cast in bronze? Steel? If steel, must it stand in front of a bank, or can it grace the hood of a Packard, or Deusenberg or Rolls or Bentley? What about the headbadge of a Hetchins? Are great furniture designers not artists because one can sit on theit works? Was Frank Lloyd Wright not an artist because one can live in his works? Must an object be devoid of any practical use to be art? And if buildings and furniture and engraved gold pocket watches are art, why not bicycles?

Regards,

Jerry Moos

brucerobbins@worldmailer.com wrote:
> To suggest that framebuilding is an artform is to denigrate true artists. What I admire in a frame is not its artistic qualities but its engineering.
> It's similar to an old Leica or a Bristol Blenheim II: the appreciation is of the craftsmanship. Bob Reid can speak for himself but I suspect that the fine engineering behind the Flying Scot is what turns him on, cycling-wise.
>
> Elevating the Californian Masi makers to the level of artists merely confirms everything the outside world (and there is one outwith California) thinks of people who come from that state. (Email me off-list if you want to know what that is but it's not for the squeamish).
>
> Bruce "Oops, there goes the special transatlantic relationship" Robbins.
>
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