Woah, that's a rare bird. I think that Campy had a four-hole SR depicted in the Olympic catalog as a drawing, but in the photo at the front I think it's a three holer. I've always assumed that it was an early drawing of something that never met production. As for this derailleur being first-generation Super Record, I'm not so sure. I think the last year for pre-CPSC fronts was 1977. So the no-holes with CPSC lip derailleur didn't come out until 1978, which was the last year for the first gen. rear derailleur (unless they kept making those along side the second gen. model.) Anyway, I think that they made the no-hole CPSC compliant fronts for a couple of years before introducing the four holer, which apparently they did as a Super and as a Nuovo. In any case, this puts us a year or two into second generation rears. I have no doubt that your bike was equipped as you say, but I suspect that the front and rear derailleurs were made at slightly different times.
Of course I could be wrong. That's why I've detailed my line of reasoning. If anyone has any information that conflicts with this perhaps we could apply it to refining the Chuck Schmidt timeline. The whole pre-CPSC/CPSC, first-gen/second/gen, holes/no holes era is pretty confusing on the front derailleur issue.
Tom Dalton
> Super record, black-anodized arms.
>
> c
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Dalton [mailto:tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:49 PM
> > To: C. Andrews
> > Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Subject: Re: [CR]re: first generation Super Record
> Derailleurs
> >
> >
> > Charles,
> > Was the four hole derailleur a Super Record, with
> > black anodized arms or was it Nuovo (all silver)?
> > I've been looking for a 4-hole Nuovo myself,
> without
> > much success. (Anybody???) I think the SR front
> came
> > out well after Campy went to three holes, and that
> a
> > four-hole black-anodized front was never made, but
> > correct me if I'm wrong. Also, do you happen to
> > recall if your derailleur also had the narrow
> > (non-pointed) band clamp? Many four-holers that
> I've
> > seen have had the narrow band, but I've seen
> > four-holers with the newer, pointed band and
> > three-holers with the straight band. I suspect
> that
> > only one of these two hybrids would be a factory
> item.
> > The other is probably only seen when someone
> cobbles
> > together a derailleur out of parts. Does anyone
> know
> > if it was the clamp or the number of holes that
> was
> > changed first? Chuck Schmidt's timeline mentions
> > both, but doesn't say if one came before the
> other.
> > If, for example, the clamp was changed first, the
> > pointed-clamp four-holers are the real deal while
> the
> > straight clamp three holers are from someone's
> spare
> > parts. Then again, maybe Campy was just using
> > whatever they could pick up off the factory floor
> for
> > some time. Anybody??? Anybody????
> >
> > Tom (curently posessed with derailling) Dalton
> >
> > --- "C. Andrews" <chasds@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > One of my minor sadnesses is that about 4 years
> ago
> > > I bought a nearly perfectly-preserved Guerciotti
> > > with a full 1st Gen Super Record Group, for
> about
> > > 400 bucks. I still have some of the parts, sold
> the
> > > frame off long ago....and, stupid me, I sold the
> > > front derailleur with another bike--those being
> the
> > > days before I realized what I had. The 1st gen
> > > front SR derailleur had *four* perfs in the
> cage.
> > > Try finding one of those sometime.
> > >
> > > <sigh>
> > >
> > > Charles "wish I still had that bike, as it was"
> > > Andrews
> > >
> > >
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