----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Thies <gregt@cs.net> To: walter skrzypek <wspokes1@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [CR]UPS Shipping and future tips.
> Walter,
> What I have done is reinforce the box sides and ends, and bottom with
> cardboard from another box. This creates a double wall all the way around.
> While this adds to the shipped weight, it is nearly impossible to
penetrate
> the box, either from the outside in or from the inside out. For added
> safety, you can attach Styrofoam pipe insulation to the tubes and then
stuff
> the box with newspaper.
> Greg Thies
> Vienna, VA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: walter skrzypek <wspokes1@hotmail.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 12:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]UPS Shipping and future tips.
>
>
> >
> > I had an incident last year where I had a bicycle severely damaged from
> UPS and the seller for some reason felt he was entitled to the repair
check
> that would have been used on my old beauty. I went as far as contacting
one
> of my bike reps in oregon to contact the gentleman from a "local" point of
> view. With luck, the rep had a fellow lawyer cyclists phone the gentleman
> and inform him of the situation. I had my money in a week. UPS also
> destroyed a Bianchi trofeo I sent to a gentleman last year. It looked
like
> a truck rested on the box overnight!
> > What kinds of tips of the trade do other fellow shippers use to prevent
> these damages? I know all you fellow classic guys dislike the word
> Cannondale, but heck, their boxes are good for shipping! I have used
> the standard cardboard around the tubes, foam around the tubes, and bubble
> wrap on certain areas. Extra Cardboard around the wheel areas to prevent
> further poking through besides the usual little plastic wheel axle caps. I
> also had one recommendation once that if you take blocks of wood to fit in
> the corners and stick them in place, it can prevent some types of
crushing.
> What else to do? Let's face it, when you have a really old classic
beautiful
> frameset that has lasted 25-35-+ years and it gets a royal thrashing in
the
> end due to shipping. This brings tears to the eyes. How do extend the
> lifetime of the classics when the shipping tries to put an end to them? I
> just noticed this started as a classic issue and has since gone
> south...maybe responses offlist are best now.
> > ------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > Walt Skrzypek
> >
> > Falls Creek, Pa
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Sid_Smith@baxter.com
> >
> > >To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >
> > >Subject: Re: [CR]UPS Shipping
> >
> > >Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:00:22 -0500
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >I recently settled with UPS for damage to a frame shipped in
December.
> The
> >
> > >box arrived with two largish holes where other boxes had been
dropped
> on
> >
> > >it. UPS wound up paying for the insured amount. I'll end up with a
> >
> > >repaired, repainted frame. Not what I purchased, but a bike
> nonetheless.
> >
> > >The pain in the butt with UPS is that the insured is the shipper,
not
> the
> >
> > >purchaser. You'd better have a good relationship with whomever you
> bought
> >
> > >the bike from, cause that's where Big Brown is gonna send the money.
> Over
> >
> > >the past year UPS deliveries have arrived in consistently poor
> condition.
> >
> > >Wonder of wonders, USPS has been doing quite well.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >Sid Smith, Chicago
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
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