Hello all, I rode many thousands of miles wearing my cleated Detto's and with toe clips and straps. I experianced a lot of knee pain. Doctors assured me that the only remedy for my problem was to have a knee operation. Knee surgery was very crude in those days. The owner of my LBS told me about some new kind of peddles and cleats that were just invented. He sold me some Look compatible Mavic pedals with 10 degrees of float. Guess what, no more knee pain, no operation. I think getting away from clips and straps was great.
Jim Salzlein
Cape May, New Jersey ------------------------------------------
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>From: "walter skrzypek"
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR]toeclips vs clipless: advantages/disadvantages?
>Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:41:47 -0400
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>In the immortal words of Mike Walden (been there a few times at the camp), Spin, Spin, Spin. In order to go fast, pedal fast...You must perfect the art of spinning. High revs. When you learn to spin more efficiently, you learn to apply power more equally. You (most of us) will never be able to pedal ideally with equal pressure all the way around the pedal stroke but you can spin and apply pressure more effectively. When you work on spinning, you use all the muscles equally in the legs and can therefore conserve energy , pedal more efficiently, and can go longer. I learned this, practiced this, and found it to be highly effective. It worked for me. I believe your friend was blowing some wind regarding the fact that you don't pedal perfect circles and who cares, Not everyone pedals best in perfect circles. That's why we are called individuals. That is also why clipless pedals have FLOAT to allow your foot to move to it's more natural pedal style (pedal style not pedal phile). Therefore, my classic content here lies in the most classic gentleman's advice of Mike Walden. Great guy!! Not always perfect with his terminology but great ideas
>Walt Skrzypek in Falls Creek, Pa
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>forgive the typos today, It is Monday!
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>>From: Roadgiant@cs.com
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>>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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>>Subject: [CR]toeclips vs clipless: advantages/disadvantages?
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>>Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:10:15 EDT
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>>Got into a new vs retro argument last night with a guy who couldn't believe I
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>>rode a 24 year old Fuji with topeclips no less. Among other things he said
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>>that one couldn't rotate the cranks in a perfect circle with toeclips. I said
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>>one could but that wasn't the way people really pedaled anyway.
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>> So here's the question to the group:
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>> How does one actually pedal a bicycle? Is the force primarily on the
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>>top/downstroke with a little help on the back/up stroke?
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>> Anybody?
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>> As an aside, when I told him that his CAAD 4 probably wouldn't make it
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>>to his 30th birthday he shrugged and said, "buy another one, dude"
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>> Hate it when I'm called 'dude'
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>> Scott "Dude" Smith
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