>I'm wondering if the mixing of glues is the culprit??? Moneyman, please share
>you trade secrets!
I'm ONLY answering this question because was asked in specific. Like many things there's no "one way" to glue on tires. My trade secret isn't really a secret it's just a technique found after gluing more tires than I want to think about and never having had one roll off. Anybody who's had the Clement dry up before the tires wore out needs to ride that bike more or put the layers on thinner, period. Any roll offs with Clement are not caused by the glue. If I had my choice of glues to use it's Fastak for the track or any tire that will see less than a months use. Clement for everything else.
Why you ask. Well Fastack holds harder than anything out there. You'll pull the tire off of the base tape half the time during removal if you put the glue on correctly. I like Clement because it stays tacky longer than anything else. Though I've used everything else available since the late 70's at one time or another and never had a problem. ALL the glues out there will work just fine if you install the tire correctly. There are a few rules: 1. Don't mix glues. Sure I've done it and it's worked fine, but after talking to some UW chemists many years ago I'm convinced it really doesn't work that well. 2. Many, many, many layers. On a new tire and rim I use a minimum of 6 very thin layers and let each set before installing the tire with one new wet layer. 3. Setting the tire solidly. After mounting I'll inflate the tire just until it's round and make sure the tire is seated evenly on the rim. Next I'll deflate the tire and use my thumbs and palms to press out any air bubbles in the glue. Now I'll check the seating before inflating it to 120+psi and pretending I'm a fork running around the shop and then letting it set up over night.
If you follow these steps you will not have a problem with roll off
issues. Of course I've worn out tires mounted with just one thick
layer of glue because I knew there weren't air bubbles in the glue
and the tire was seated really deep in the rim. I may have seen
Cinelli bars break but I've never seen, or heard, of a properly
installed tire rolling off, unless it was in a crash. I do need to
point out that this subject has been beat to death so many times that
we don't even bother burying it afterwards. It's another one of
those clipless pedals and helmets issues that people never agree on.
I'd say ban the issue from the list since everything that can be said
has been said and I know I made a post almost identical to this 6
months ago. There's a reason we keep archives.
enjoy,
Brandon"born-to-wrench"Ives aka monkeyman
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